Thread III

So far clowd, you have 3 posts in this thread that could have been compacted into one post and yet you posted them individually, and I\'m not referring entirely to your discussion with Titan either.  I warned you before about doing as we ask and if you don\'t, there will be consequences.  I\'m sick of you not listening to other people when it comes to these threads.  You completely ignored what shadwhawk said even though what he said is probably the closest thing to fact that I have ever seen.

Either you have a problem with reading comprehension or you are just having a lot of trouble understanding what any of us are stating.  In any case, I\'ll spell it out for you in the most simplistic of terms:

Creationism - The idea that all was created by a supreme being - IE no science involved.  It was suddenly just there, and so were we.

Evolution - Change over time.  Evolution has NOTHING to do with how life was created just with how it CHANGED OVER TIME.

Abiogenesis - The supposed development of living organisms from nonliving matter. Also called autogenesis, spontaneous generation.

Evolution does exist.  You admitted it yourself that it does exist --

And thats just one example. One animal evolving in the entire world.

and you can\'t write it off as if it doesn\'t.  What you are arguing is creationism VS Abiogenesis.  For you not to know that at all already shows just how unintelligent you are.  There it is, in bold right there for you to see.

Ryu,  I dont know what to say.  You say creation says life was *poof* and it appeared so it isnt scientific.

Funny how evolution states the universe began the same way.  

I didnt admit it existed,  I was being sarcastic.  Im sure there would be more then one animal changing in the hole world.  I believe that animals change,  but they stay to their kind.  Humans change,  look at the different sizes, shapes, colors.  But they dont change into a diffrent species.

As for shadwhawk,  it is extremely hard to reply to his posts because they are so long.  It would be better if he gave me a numbered list.  so I dont have to quote everything he said.

Originally posted by Clowd
Funny how evolution states the universe began the same way.  

You really don\'t listen, do you?  EVOLUTION SAYS NOTHING ABOUT THE WAY THINGS STARTED!  Man...:rolleyes:

It\'s things like this that destroy your credibility.

Originally posted by shockwaves


You really don\'t listen, do you?  EVOLUTION SAYS NOTHING ABOUT THE WAY THINGS STARTED!  Man...:rolleyes:

So you believe in a creator?  For evolution to exist,  the big bang theory must exist.

That isn\'t true at all.  Many people believe in creation, followed by evolution.  Evolution only states what happens when animals are already there.  It says nothing about how they got there, and isn\'t related to that at all.  Evolution can exist with any other theory on how things began, including creation.

So your giving up your debate on there not being a intellegent creator?

No, I\'m just telling you to get things straight, and stop making such ignorant posts.  By continually saying evolution deals with how things began, you are only showing that you don\'t listen to our posts, and really don\'t know what you\'re talking about.

Originally posted by shockwaves
No, I\'m just telling you to get things straight, and stop making such ignorant posts.  By continually saying evolution deals with how things began, you are only showing that you don\'t listen to our posts, and really don\'t know what you\'re talking about.

Well you have no way to dissaprove there isnt a creator.

I never said I did have a way.  But seriously, let\'s stop making these useless, pointless, bickering, antagonizing bull**** posts, and do what this topic was made for.  This topic was made to post facts only, backed up by sources.  You have yet to do that Clowd.

Originally posted by shockwaves
I never said I did have a way.  But seriously, let\'s stop making these useless, pointless, bickering, antagonizing bull**** posts, and do what this topic was made for.  This topic was made to post facts only, backed up by sources.  You have yet to do that Clowd.

This may be called off the subject,  but in order to debate I must know this.

Shockwaves, which do you believe.

1.) Life came to earth on an asteroid. (big bang theory)

2.) Life formed from lightning sparks and polymerized in the primitive ocean. (big bang theory)

3.) A creator

Neither one or two has anything to do with the big bang.  Why can\'t you see that?

Originally posted by Clowd


This may be called off the subject,  but in order to debate I must know this.

Shockwaves, which do you believe.

1.) Life came to earth on an asteroid.(big bang theory)

2.) Life formed from lightning sparks and polymerized in the primitive ocean. (big bang theory)

3.) A creator

isnt the big bang theory related to the formation of the universe?

Yes, it is.  It has nothing to do with the origin of life.

Originally posted by Clowd

Originally posted by Gohan
On that note, what caused the Big Bang? Were the materials necessary to create the universe/all life as we know it resting in one spot for eons and then decided to just seperate one day? Anyone with an inkling of knowledge about physics can tell you that every action has an equal and opposite reaction. What was the "action" to the big bang\'s "reaction"?

On a somewhat related note, Just like some of you can pose questions that can not be answered by even the most well read religious scholar, I can pose questions about Human history and development that continue to stump some of the most learned evolutionary scientists. I can elaborate if you want.

Interesting how its so hard to believe in God,  but it is so easy to believe in the big bang.

Please elaborate[/B]

Not once in my entire post did I say that I didn\'t believe in God nor did I say I believed in the Big Bang.

My elaboration is coming very soon.

Originally posted by Clowd

 For evolution to exist,  the big bang theory must exist.

The big bang theory is nothing more than a theory.  It is not part of evolution.  Evolution is a species evolving over time, now starting from scratch.