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Offline Ginko
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« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2002, 06:19:59 AM »
I may make an ass of myself here, but I\'m actually looking forward to DOA: Volleyball...that and Beachspikers from Sega.  I haven\'t seen a good volleyball game since the old Nintendo days...they\'re fun IMO.

Isn\'t DOA : Volleyball suppose to be online?  I think so, that would make it all the more fun...


I also have to ask, why not have a volleyball game using the Dead or Alive universe?  If you ask me, they\'re a perfect fit...then again, most of you are going to criticize anything that comes out of Tecmo.
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« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2002, 06:51:05 AM »
Ginko.. what about Outlaw Vollyball?  That could be just as good as DoAVolleyBall

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« Reply #17 on: July 17, 2002, 07:28:13 AM »
I forgot about that one!! That and Beachspikers...whichever goes online will be the one I get.

Still, I don\'t know why so many of you are trashing the game?
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« Reply #18 on: July 17, 2002, 07:57:22 AM »
I think DOA Volleyball is classless and predatory on young, hormone crazed kids.  Sex sells and that\'s why this game is being made.  It\'s trash.
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« Reply #19 on: July 17, 2002, 08:47:57 AM »
Whatever, Watchdog...it\'s a volleyball game.  It\'s just a spin-off of the DOA series.  If the gameplay is spot-on there is no reason to trash it...
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« Reply #20 on: July 17, 2002, 08:59:11 AM »
No, it\'s not a volleyball game.  It\'s sleezy low class smut.  Little boys will buy it and wack off more than play it.  If it was a volleyball game based on the series, why aren\'t the men in it?

Yeah, thought so.
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« Reply #21 on: July 17, 2002, 09:13:18 AM »
It is a volleyball game...you can\'t deny that.  Being that the majority of gamers are male, it makes sense to emphasize a female presence...

It\'s obviously based around the DOA universe as there are similar characters...

If the gameplay is there, it will be a good volleyball game.  You said yourself, sex sells...that might give DOA: EV the upper hand.
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« Reply #22 on: July 17, 2002, 09:29:12 AM »
heh, if I had a choice to which Volleyball game I\'d get... hell, it doesn\'t take a genious to figure out which one...

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« Reply #23 on: July 17, 2002, 09:47:39 AM »
Just curious, do you also protest against movies? Because ninenty percent of them are based off the same prinicaple. Sex does sell and in any entertainment industry it will give a company the upper-hand. Of course the game focuses on the female in the series, that is because that is what DOA is known for. Its well-breasted females. So, take well-breasted females, throw them in bikini\'s and put them in a setting more suited...a VOLLEYBALL game! I mean, it at least makes more sense than them fighting in bikini\'s..;)

Seriously though, if the gameplay is spot on, I could care less if it sells to the masses because of the sexual aspects. I\'m with Ginko, I just want a good volleyball game.

I personally hate the DOA fighting series, but it is a sound business choice for Team Ninja / Tecmo to make a DOA:Extreme Volleyball game.

And another thing, I have to agree with Ginko. Some of you just hate Tecmo and I don\'t care if they put out the single best game this year, you would still hate it. I\'m personally looking forward to Ninja Gaiden and interested in DOA:Extreme Volleyball...As for DOA4, I  never cared for the series and I don\'t see that changing anytime soon.

* Doesn\'t remember all the hatred for Tecmo / Team Ninja until they left the PS2 stating that they couldn\'t do DOA3 anywhere \'cept the Xbox.  Hmm. ;)* [/i]
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« Reply #24 on: July 17, 2002, 11:13:29 AM »
Bah.. i was gonna reply in rage, but i decided not to :)

Fatal Frame = By Tecmo??  That\'s a game Ive heard plenty of good things about and am looking forward to.
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« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2002, 11:39:55 AM »
I like the DOA fighting series.  I don\'t hate Tecmo.

And you cannot compare the movie industry to DOA VB.  This game is going to be all about bouncing tits.  I\'d be embarassed to play it.  Just like that BMX game that will allow for topless female riders.  

This game is the movie equivalent of Coyote Ugly or Showgirls.  It might be a good game, but they aren\'t selling the gameplay.  

I\'m not saying it wasn\'t a good business decision or that it won\'t sell like crazy.  But this is not what gaming is about.  They are selling wetdreams.  Not one of them has small breasts, nor are any of them unattractive.

A game like Outlaw Golf has sex appeal, but it\'s going about it in a different manner.  

I don\'t want to see all VG descend into this kind of garbage.  For god\'s sake rent a porno if you need to see tits.
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« Reply #26 on: July 17, 2002, 01:53:40 PM »
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I like the DOA fighting series.  I don\'t hate Tecmo.

And you cannot compare the movie industry to DOA VB.  This game is going to be all about bouncing tits.  I\'d be embarassed to play it.  Just like that BMX game that will allow for topless female riders.  

This game is the movie equivalent of Coyote Ugly or Showgirls.  It might be a good game, but they aren\'t selling the gameplay.  

I\'m not saying it wasn\'t a good business decision or that it won\'t sell like crazy.  But this is not what gaming is about.  They are selling wetdreams.  Not one of them has small breasts, nor are any of them unattractive.

A game like Outlaw Golf has sex appeal, but it\'s going about it in a different manner.  

I don\'t want to see all VG descend into this kind of garbage.  For god\'s sake rent a porno if you need to see tits.


The funny thing about this is you constantly complain about how Nintendo has to many "cutesy-poo" games and what not. However, when another company markets sex you start complaining about how that is not what games are about (and you\'re right). The contradiction is, you fail to realize that no matter the image of the game, it is still about gameplay. If the game is sound and has a kiddie image  - the gameplay is all that should matter and the same could be said for these new mature games. If the gameplay is sound, that is the main thing.
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« Reply #27 on: July 17, 2002, 02:29:48 PM »
Wellll.. my take on the series is that DOA has always sold on two premises. Flashy graphics and Big Breasted chicks. That\'s pretty much the meat of what they sell the game on. IMO, the gameplay is extreemely shallow. It\'s just not that much fun after about 10 minuites... and really there\'s not a whole lot of depth to the series either. And I guess that I\'m not the only one who sees this, which is why it\'s got a reputation as a button masher. Now you\'re goin to take the same development team.. focus ONLY on the big breasted chicks..  stick them in bikinis.. and expect to have a good solid Volleyball title as the product? I\'m sorry, I jus don\'t see it that way. Precedence is set that it\'s just going to be a simple and shallow game.. focusing mostly on bouncing boobies and simplistic gameplay.. jus like the series that spawned it. It might be a very good title for something that you\'re only going to pick up for a few minuites in-between bouts of Panzer Dragoon and Project Ego.. but I don\'t see it becoming a very solid title on in it\'s own right.

It\'s a cash in.. and really nothing more. Course, we won\'t know until the game is actually released. Team Ninja might surprise us.. but it\'s doubtful.

As for Watch complaining about kiddy games and then turning around and damning a game that sells itself on Sex... if you look at the Adult videogame market you\'ll see that 98% of all it\'s titles are crap. Pure garbage that sells only on it\'s concentration of pootang. I don\'t think anyone here wants to see the videogame market on the whole turn into the Adult game market. Is it a law that just because a game has sex and other adult themes that it has to be crap? I think what he\'s hoping for are games that can satisfy both the need for more adult entertainment as well as provide excellent gameplay and quality builds.

Yeah, Sex sells... but that\'s no excuse for mindless cashins and crap titles. Gameplay and quality should always come before the Sexual content. I know Tecmo\'s good on the quality end.. the gameplay in DOA is severly lacking tho IMO.. and I doubt  that will change much in this new volleyball game.

I hope I\'m wrong.
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« Reply #28 on: July 17, 2002, 02:30:36 PM »
Well, you\'re wrong about that.  I have issue with N because they target 5-15 year olds.  I have issue with DOAVB becasue they target 14-20 year old boys.

I would have no no problem playing a mature game.  But anyone who thinks boucing tits and drooling boys are mature, have some skewed views and serious issues.

I have respect for N in the same way that I respect Playschool.  I have no respect for Tecmo (although I do like some of their games).  From their outspoken headman down to this sharade of a volleyball game, it\'s  a classless company, not confident enough in their own gamemaking ability to produce a volleyball game that can rise above the stature of saturday night  blue movies and soft porn.
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« Reply #29 on: July 17, 2002, 03:06:02 PM »
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They are selling wetdreams. Not one of them has small breasts, nor are any of them unattractive.


Why on earth would they put unattractive people in a Volleyball game?  Why average people, whatever that might be?  Why not go for the flash and appeal to draw a little bit more attention?

I really don\'t see why you people are making such a big deal out of this...it is a volleyball game.  It is not a softcore porn or adult entertainment, nor a mature theme...

It is a flashy presentation that\'s perfectly suited for the game at hand...if it were a different title such as adventure or racing, there would definitely be issues.
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