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« Reply #15 on: July 16, 2002, 09:21:07 PM »
Perhaps... Although my confidence in Green is low...

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« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2002, 09:23:31 PM »
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I\'m not picking on you shockwaves, its just I agreed with ROL. And... wait I am picking on you ;)

Grbac can\'t get worse, he retired. And the Browns took a game against Baltimore last year.

Meh, bad wording.  Look at my post now, you\'ll see what I meant.

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Teams don\'t need huge stars. Look at the Patriots, they had Tom Brady, Troy Brown, and Antowain Smith... Guys you haven\'t heard of till\' last year.

But I don\'t think the Browns have the people that can step up in the same way.  And yes, I had heard of the people.  I happen to pay attention to Michigan football, being the Ohio St. fan I am :)


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They also lost Derrick Alexander, and they have sub par recievers now. Holmes is great, but I\'m still not convinced he can follow up with the same kind of year.


Derrick Alexander also did nothing last year.  Their reciever have gotten better, when you consider the season Alexander had.  The team also came together at the end of the year, and finished strong.

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Perhaps.... They\'re run game is inconsistent though.. They did lose Trotter... but McNabb is getting better.

Staley isn\'t that bad at all.  He just had injury problems that slowed him.  Trotter is a loss, but they still are very solid on D.  They also showed they can play the Rams, and I always hate to pick favorites to win.

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The Packers stand in their way. Packers have a much better offense.


The Packers were there last year too.  The Bears have a much better defense, and the Packers have very questionable recievers this year.

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No way...

AFC East Record Last Year: 35-29
NFC West Record Last Year: 42-22


The Cards are worse than any AFC East team for sure.  The Seahawks could be too.  The Bills got much better.  The Pats are the defending champs.  The Dolphins also got much better.  The Jets are a very solid team.  This team is very tough, top to bottom.  The AFC East teams improved more than the NFC West ones by far.  It isn\'t last year, it\'s this year.
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« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2002, 09:30:36 PM »
Ah yes, go football debates. I decided to reply to TOBG\'s post.


Let the fun begin.


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AFC EAST: New England - Although Miami has powerful weapons, as usual they will go into the season the heavied favorite. Dolphins are over-rated every year. This year will be no different. NE retains most of the same team w/ the exception of Bledsoe, who will bring Buffalo from a crappy team to a mediocre team at best. Look for New England to enter the play-offs again, maybe won\'t be champs, but definite contenders. New England will have a tougher schedual this year, but like last year, they will show they can step up to even an unstoppable team.



Miami DESERVES to be the heavy favorite. They picked up the missing link. NE had a break out season. The harder schedule, and with the teams out to get them, they\'ll probably finish around 9-7.


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AFC NORTH: Pittsburg - I\'m liking Pittsburg again this year. Reason, they will be aware that they are not the unstoppable team they think they are and put more effort into the game. They\'ve got the weapons, and they\'ve got the defense, they just gotta perform. Baltimore might stick it\'s head out and prove to be a challenge, but a challenge at best. Cincinattie and Cleveland look pitiful this year, both will be sub .500 teams.


Cleveland looks pitiful? They started great last season, and can only get better. Baltimore will be shit. They lost virtually all the key parts. They\'re lucky they have Cincy in their division so they don\'t have to finish last.


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AFC SOUTH: Tennesse - This team had a building year last year, with it\'s ups and downs. But they seem to be good overall this year. Indy with the acquisition of Dungy may prove to be contenders, but I see them more in the wild card spot, losing yet another first round playoff game. Manning is powerful, but like Miami, heavely overated every year. Houston being an expansion team will take a few years to build, but might have some memorable first season games. Jacksonville... they threw in the towel before the expansion draft.


The Colts, like the Dolphins, could have quite possibly picked up the missing link. Dungy will help out their bad defense, and they certainly have the weapons on offense. Tennessee has a solid defense, and a shaky offense. So if anything, it\'ll probably be the Titans losing in the 1st round.


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AFC WEST: San Diego - A lot of people seem to like Oakland, I like SD, and I\'ll tell you why. They were 4-1 beginning last year until bad coaching got the worst of them. This year new coaching, improved offense and lighter schedual will push San Diego to the top. SD and Oakland will both contend for number one. Oakland is gonna be a play-off team but for how long, Gannon is getting old, he can\'t take hits like he used to. Rice is getting old, Oakland is an old team, maybe not bad, but that\'s bad for the future. Maybe they are too old. I don\'t expect anything out of KC or Denver.


San Diego\'s first 3 wins came against Washington, Dallas, and Cincy. 3 bad teams last year. And KC doing nothing? Look what Jamas said up there. Go Chiefs.


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NFC EAST: Washington - This is my immediate disagrement with the first post. Spurrier, one of the greatest college coaches knows what it takes to win. I said the second Spurrier was added Washington will be a good team, the players have been improved, O and D IMPROVED. Were looking at astronomical numbers here. Philly will indeed be the thorn in washington\'s side but only to a degree. NY, hate to say it, but the are between a rock and a hard place, harder teams, no more fifth place scheduals, were looking at another sad season.


Phily almost beats the Rams in the NFC Championship game, makes virtually no changes, McNabb should only get better, and you have them at a thorn in the Redskins side. Explain, please.


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This years Superbowl "New England vs. Washington"



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« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2002, 09:31:22 PM »
Cards v. Bills - Cards. Bills have NOTHING going for them... Maybe Bledsoe at the QB spot but thats it. The Cards at least have a top reciever and a decent pass rush.

Seahawks v. Jets - Jets, barely. Dilfer is on the same level as Testaverde. And Martin and Alexander are at the same level as well. Jets have the edge with defense.

Niners v. Patriots - Well if we aren\'t going by last year, than by far the Niners. Garcia beats out Brady. Owens beats out Brown. Niners have a better ground game with Barlow and Hearst.

Rams v. Dolphins - ...No comment....
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« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2002, 09:34:28 PM »
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Derrick Alexander also did nothing last year. Their reciever have gotten better, when you consider the season Alexander had. The team also came together at the end of the year, and finished strong. - Shockwaves


He had Hamstring problems the entire year. You can\'t really do much with bad hamstrings. Injuries or not, Vermiel was goona release him at the end of the year, simply because he\'s not "The type of reciever" that Vermiel wants.

Washington vs. New England in the SB...is that a joke?

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What do Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, Matt Clement, and Carlos Zambrano have in common?

They\'re the pieces to the next great pitching rotation of our time, what else?

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« Reply #20 on: July 16, 2002, 09:34:52 PM »
Rams vs. Dolphins = one hell of a game.
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« Reply #21 on: July 16, 2002, 09:35:35 PM »
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Miami DESERVES to be the heavy favorite. They picked up the missing link. NE had a break out season. The harder schedule, and with the teams out to get them, they\'ll probably finish around 9-7

Picking up the missing link means you have the talent to win it all.  The Pats have shown that they have the talent, and ability to win it all.  Hell, they did win it all.  They deserve to be the favorites.  They are the champs, and if anything, they got better.
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« Reply #22 on: July 16, 2002, 09:39:23 PM »
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Cards v. Bills - Cards. Bills have NOTHING going for them... Maybe Bledsoe at the QB spot but thats it. The Cards at least have a top reciever and a decent pass rush.

Seahawks v. Jets - Jets, barely. Dilfer is on the same level as Testaverde. And Martin and Alexander are at the same level as well. Jets have the edge with defense.

Niners v. Patriots - Well if we aren\'t going by last year, than by far the Niners. Garcia beats out Brady. Owens beats out Brown. Niners have a better ground game with Barlow and Hearst.

Rams v. Dolphins - ...No comment....


Bills vs Cards- Bills.  The Cards have Plummer.  With Plummer, they will get no where.  The Bills have a better D, simply because the Cards D is pure shit.  They also have a better QB, and good WRs in Price and Moulds.

Jets v. Seahawks- Jets, by a lot.  They are better at QB, RB, and defense.  They have a better O line.  No contest.

Pats v. Niners- Pats.  They are the defending champs, and they got better, not worse.  They kill the Niners on D, and I\'d take Smith over Hearst.

Dolphins v. Rams- Rams.  I don\'t know who has more talent than the Rams, but the Dolphins are damn good too.

And overall, comparing team by team really makes no sense.
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« Reply #23 on: July 16, 2002, 09:50:36 PM »
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Picking up the missing link means you have the talent to win it all.  The Pats have shown that they have the talent, and ability to win it all.  Hell, they did win it all.  They deserve to be the favorites.  They are the champs, and if anything, they got better.



Next season will be a test for the Pats. They have a 1st place schedule and teams will be out to get them because they are the defending Super Bowl champs. Who knows, they might prove me wrong and finish 1st in the division.
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« Reply #24 on: July 16, 2002, 09:51:34 PM »
How did I post that twice...ignore this.
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What do Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, Matt Clement, and Carlos Zambrano have in common?

They\'re the pieces to the next great pitching rotation of our time, what else?

GO CUBS!

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« Reply #25 on: July 16, 2002, 10:00:35 PM »
Bills have a HORRIBLE defense. Buffalo allowed 420 points last season. Arizona 100 points less. And with Drew Bledsoe no one gets anywhere either! He sure wasn\'t a factore in the Patriots success. And I\'d chose Boston and Jenkins way over Moulds and Price.

Come on, Vinny is just as good as Trent, if not worse. At least Dilfer has a superbowl ring. And I Shaun Alexander is not only better than Martin, he\'s faster, and more agile. Jets only got my nod because of their defense.

Pats had the same year the Ravens had when they won it, they don\'t have the ingredients to repeat. Smith over Hearst, perhaps, but not Smith over Hearst and Barlow.

And in regards of comparing team to team, I\'m just trying any way to prove to you that the NFC West is a better division.

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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2002, 10:06:14 PM »
The Bills also played good AFC East offenses while the Cards got 2 games a piece against the Giants, Cowboys, and Redskins.  The Bills best defensive player also missed the season.

The Jets do have a good D, you\'re right, but Martin is one of the very best in the league.  Alexander will have a tougher time this year.  Martin is proven.  Year after year, he keeps going.  He was the 2nd leading rusher last year, and the core of that offense.  Besides, the Jets were a playoff team.  The Seahawks weren\'t close.  Vinny also can be better than Trent.  Sure Trent has a ring, but the defense and RB on that team had something to do with that.  Vinny is a former pro bowler.

Yes, Smith over Hearst and Barlow.  And the Pats may not repeat, but the Niners aren\'t winning it either.  The Niners got to the playoffs and were outplayed by the Packers.  The Pats got a first round bye, then beat a good Raiders team, a good Stealers team, and a great Rams team.

Team by team really doesn\'t work though.
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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2002, 10:10:32 PM »
Seattle wasn\'t close? I think I remember them finishing 9-7, one game out of the Wild Card.
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« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2002, 10:10:40 PM »
It doesn\'t....

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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2002, 10:15:06 PM »
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Seattle wasn\'t close? I think I remember them finishing 9-7, one game out of the Wild Card.


Yeah, but they would have had to beat the Jets out to get in.  Thus, they weren\'t close :)
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