EGM Says Buffy for Xbox Sucks..

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Originally posted by Ginko


I see you\'ve taken a jaded opinion on just about everything...taking a page from mm?

Munch is without a doubt one of the best games available for Xbox, but the only decent game?  Whatever.

By "decent" standards I would add Halo, Project Gotham, Jet Set Radio Future, Max Payne, Rallisport, Morrowind, Dead or Alive 3...Some of you are seriously short changing the system.

Maybe Rastalant was on to something, talking about people trashing Xbox left and right...someone sticks up for it and all of a sudden they become a target as one after another reminds them of the lack of software, fps, or some other BS.:rolleyes:

Ginky!


Halo : I personally can\'t stand the game. Frame rate problems, typical FPS...The list goes on.

Jet Set Radio:Future -  I don\'t think you even want to get me started on this dissapointment, as I was an avid fan of the first one.

Max Payne : - Didn\'t care for it.

Dead or Alive 3: - Come on! I didn\'t care for the first two on any systems and three is just a revamped graphics engine for the most part.

Morrowind - Butchered version of the PC game.

To be completely honest, you got me on one thing. There is another decent Xbox game..That is Gun Valkiyre, provided you go buy the S controller - the only possible way to play that game.

Hopefully Steel Battlion, Strident and Panzer Dragoon : Orta will also be added to that list. I\'m hopeful.

Halo: Frame rate problems...heh, like two instances.

JSRF: I was also an avid fan of the first...I enjoyed the sequel even more.

Max Payne: Didn\'t care for it?  Doesn\'t mean it isn\'t decent...

I didn\'t get you on anything, that wasn\'t my intention.  

Saying Munch is the only decent game on Xbox is just a gross understatement.

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Originally posted by Ginko
Halo: Frame rate problems...heh, like two instances.

JSRF: I was also an avid fan of the first...I enjoyed the sequel even more.

Max Payne: Didn\'t care for it?  Doesn\'t mean it isn\'t decent...

I didn\'t get you on anything, that wasn\'t my intention.  

Saying Munch is the only decent game on Xbox is just a gross understatement.

Okay, Ginky now we got a problem . Unless you are telling me my copy of Halo is defective, than I can think of more than two instances of frame rate problems. Almost anytime you take the warthog (with back gunner) into a heavy enemy area, the game starts to drop frames.

As for Jet Set Radio:Future, I felt like they butchered the game and I\'ll never forgive Sega for that...

Okay, Ginky now we got a problem. Unless you are telling me my copy of Halo is defective, than I can think of more than two instances of frame rate problems. Almost anytime you take the warthog (with back gunner) into a heavy enemy area, the game starts to drop frames.

Bah, I was merely suggesting that it doesn\'t derail the gameplay.  I\'ve been through the game almost a dozen times and it\'s never hindered gameplay.  To bag on the game continuously for a shortcoming common in 90% of videogames is just tiring.

As for Jet Set Radio:Future, I felt like they butchered the game and I\'ll never forgive Sega for that...

THe only negative comment I have on the game is that the areas were sometimes to large and without direction.  Getting past that then the game was in a word, decent:p

There are a great deal of areas in the game that are varied, particularly each time you start a level, but many of the times you are inside the installation, everything is just a repeat of what you just got through and that is something I don\'t like.  Framerate problems are few and far between so I really don\'t think it\'s fair to knock the entire game for that.  I actually thought MoH frontline suffered from WAY more slowdown then Halo, but that\'s just me.

[Bobs_Hardware]

WTF!?

My Halo has had literally 1 or 2 instances of slowdown.  In co-op.  Never in single player.

However, last night I loaded it up and didnt click on anything (the menu screen) and it let the demonstrations play.. and there is PLENTY of slowdown there.  So it just made me rather confused as to why when playing the game I have seen virtually NO slowdown at all.

"Your system has performed an illegal operation and must be shut down"

:P

EGM is not gospel. While I have no cares about this game, nor have I ever, taking one opinion and making it your own just because it fits your agenda is something a dumb**** would do. BTW, Crispin Boyer said on GA yesterday that a 5 was average.

People who say XBox has two decent games must:

Not play sports games as it has all the standard Sega and EA sports games.

disagree with the majority of people on how \'decent\' Halo, GUNVALKYRIE, JSRF, Munch, Morrowind, Amped, Project Gotham, Rallisport Challenge, DOA3, Crazy Taxi 3, Gun Metal, World Series Baseball, and Enclave are. Especially when all of these games have received above average to excellent scores.

Don\'t be stupid and say jaded crap like that. Especially when it is apparent that you haven\'t played a majority of these titles. These are just the exclusive ones, btw. There are third party ones on XBox that are very good, too. There is plenty to play on XBox, you just can\'t let a jaded opinion get into your head despite a mass opinion of their being fun things to play.

and another thing, that stupid "Of course the game looks nice, but is hollow like every other XBox game" is bull****. PS2 has a much higher **** game ratio, except there is NO redeeming graphics on those games. Terrible graphics, slowdown, rushed feel, etc. are all acceptable on PS2. How many times have I heard how great Sky Gunner or Medal of Honor is despite all the problems that obviously plague these games, much worse so than in Halo. Yet everytime Halo gets mentioned, "Besides the terrible slowdown" is also thrown in there for good charm. The slowdown in Halo is very uncommon, much more so than in Frontline, and Halo has good aiming to boot!

Give me a ****ing break, you guys are getting sucked into opinions without actually trying the games that you ignore.


Eric Jacob

As always, great post Altered...but try to tone it down on the profanity.Thanks

-Ginks

While I agree with you, Altered, there\'s no need for the profanity...

Calm down and enjoy the games...

Yes Beast, that contradiction I have pointed out hundreds of times.

The responce will be:  I expect more from xbox.  :rolleyes:

Also, there are many impressions of Kri on these boards, why are the graphics and horrible framerate problems not brought up in that game?  And don\'t give me the gameplay crap either, it\'s recycled and firmly been-there-done-that.

The answer is that it\'s a highly aniticpated PS2 game.  That\'s why.

On a side note: Why is it I feel more and more ashamed of once calling Ryu a fanboy (during my first couple of posts)?  My apologies, friend, nothing could be further from the truth.

ACtually, L-I-C said it was an underhyped game...

[Bobs_Hardware]

good one Ashford

And I think Medal of Honor\'s inprecise aiming was intentional.. I actually liked it (after I got used to it)

Read some E3 previews--it\'s on many lists as a game to watch.

why are the graphics and horrible framerate problems not brought up in that game?

Simply cause the game (mark of kri) has gameplay, unlike 99% of xbox games.
There is something that is more effective and does it better then a xbox game. What is that called you may ask.. A movie!
Yep, provides the same experience as a xbox game but probably much more enjoyable (not to mention less frustrating and cheaper)
Interestingly enough the ps2 plays movies, so in theory the ps2 plays xbox games.

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The answer is that it\'s a highly aniticpated PS2 game. That\'s why.

Uhh, Mark of Kri was highly anticipated!?!
Wow, I thought it was one of the biggest sleeper hits of the year

On a side note: Why is it I feel more and more ashamed of once calling Ryu a fanboy (during my first couple of posts)? My apologies, friend, nothing could be further from the truth.

No problem.  It\'s a common mistake people make when they debate with me.  It\'s easy to come off as a fanboy when you try and defend something.  It\'s hard to show you\'re impartial when you\'re defending anything actually.  

How many times have I heard how great Sky Gunner or Medal of Honor is despite all the problems that obviously plague these games, much worse so than in Halo. Yet everytime Halo gets mentioned, "Besides the terrible slowdown" is also thrown in there for good charm. The slowdown in Halo is very uncommon, much more so than in Frontline, and Halo has good aiming to boot!

I love it.  Nice way to put that especially since it\'s so true.  The same people here who cream all over MoH Frontline are the same people who say Halo has framerate issues but claim Frontline has no framerate issues to speak of.  It\'s total BS and to see people praise that game and diss Halo for the same shortcomings baffles me time and time again.  The only bad thing is that if MoH comes out for the XBox and suffers from the same issues it has on the PS2.  I expect them to be remedied, but of course, it\'ll never run as good on the XBox as Allied Assault does on my PC.  

The answer is that it\'s a highly aniticpated PS2 game. That\'s why.

I actually considered this game to be more of a sleeper hit like Sky Gunner or Way of the Samurai was.  Although, I don\'t think those games are really hits, but more like quirky games that aren\'t as high profile as others.  The first preview I read about the game was a small interview in one of those smaller magazines (I forget the name right now), but the impressions were good nonetheless just like the majority of Sky Gunner and Way of the Samurai previews.  I just put a little bookmark in my mind about it, but I never saw any sites doing 5-day exposes about it like they did (do) GTA3, GT3, Halo, Mario Sunshine, Zelda, or MGS2.  Maybe I just didn\'t look hard enough for it, but I definitely missed the hype if there was any at all.