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« Reply #30 on: July 28, 2002, 01:40:08 AM »
Even if it\'s just an indication of how fast next gen consoles could be, then hot damn... ;)

*dreams about next gen consoles*
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« Reply #31 on: July 28, 2002, 02:07:20 AM »
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i was just wondering is this the secret news that was mentioned in this thread


No it isn\'t. The promised big news wasn\'t announced after all, according to Vandal. I have seen this item of news in other foums and videogame places. I\'ve not found pictures or movies. I don\'t know if it\'s a fake or it\'s real: I DON\'T KNOW. Your mind is open to believe it or not. I can\'t do anything more but posting this article and hope replies.

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I will be disapointed if the PS3 cant handle Final Fantasy The Movie quality graphics perfectly.Thats something we have been promised.


You know what you\'re talking about, Unicron!? You mean realtime graphics? You\'re absolutely crazy.
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« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2002, 03:43:59 AM »
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You know what you\'re talking about, Unicron!? You mean realtime graphics? You\'re absolutely crazy.


Well actually I  might be:D.I wouldnt like to see XBOX2 2 years after PS3 that might be able to handle it though.
We know how much powerfull XBOX is compared to PS2.

But then again.....Am I really crazy:nut: ???:confused:
« Last Edit: July 28, 2002, 03:59:33 AM by Unicron! »

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« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2002, 04:03:07 AM »
I also hope that PS3\'s VRAM would be able to stream textures just like PS2\'s VRAM.Can you imagine what a 128MB streaming VRAM can do?We all saw what PS2\'s VRAM can do.

Oh this is my 1111st post:)

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« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2002, 04:33:09 AM »
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Oh, and as far as controllers.. I think you\'re nuts Fastson. I agree with L-I-C. "Better" analog sticks and Analog buttons does NOT make a "very" different controller. It\'s an enhanced PSX controller.. not different.. not original.

Not to say I wouldn\'t be happy with an "Enhanced" PSX controller. After all, I use a DS2 on my DC and will use one on all of my consoles this generation probably. It\'s a good controller, but don\'t try to turn the DS2 into something it\'s not. It makes you looked brainwashed.


I never said it was very different. *reads post again* Nope.. Never said very different.

I think its improoved from the first. Its not a complete new design just minor changes, and I really dont care. Im happy with it as it is.

The buttons are now analoge which helps the gameplay alot in games like Ace Combat or Gran Turismo. You dont need to sit and "stab" the accelerator when you are in the corners anymore. You just need to lighten the pressure on the X button, this helps the gameplay alot IMO.
Now I use it and I dont even think about it :)

The feeling of the sticks are different aswell, more stiff. The dualshock (forcefeedback) is more "detailed".. it can make smaller shocks now and its not as lowd as the DS1.

Its not a completly new controller (then again I never said it was), it looks the same and it feels almost the same, but the little improvements helps the gameplay alot, at least for me.
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« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2002, 04:36:56 AM »
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I will be disapointed if  the PS3  cant handle Final Fantasy The Movie quality graphics perfectly.Thats something we have been promised.
Ofcourse we dont know if its true yet and even if it is there are still 4 years left for improvements.

Also lets not forget the power of GScube\'s which can handle graphics like the Matrix and Ants(Although I dont think Sony can design a console that powerfull while keeping its price logical).


I wonder.. It will take a very long time and cost alot of money to make game with the [visual] qualities like the FF:TSW movie.

Im not sure every developer will have the cash to do this.
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« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2002, 05:22:34 AM »
Fasty, the GeForce4 can run the movie in real time - today! But that doesn\'t matter, DoomIII leaves it in the dust so the FF:TSW standard is no longer the peak of developer aspirations.

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« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2002, 05:26:21 AM »
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Fasty, the GeForce4 can run the movie in real time - today! But that doesn\'t matter, DoomIII leaves it in the dust so the FF:TSW standard is no longer the peak of developer aspirations.
Ehem... that\'s some mighty big words there Awy. I highly doubt that Doom III - while surely it\'ll boost some nice models and textures - will leave FF:TSW \'in the dust\'. Also, a Geforce 4 can do the movie? Damn, why didn\'t Square just think of that before buying all those expensive SGi workstations...
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« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2002, 06:18:46 AM »
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Fasty, the GeForce4 can run the movie in real time - today! But that doesn\'t matter, DoomIII leaves it in the dust so the FF:TSW standard is no longer the peak of developer aspirations.


No.. It can do the downgraded models (2 of them.. Aki and that dude.. old man) with no backgrounds in realtime.. at about 20fps :)
NOT the whole movie.

Doom III is not even close to the FF:TSW visuals.. but its damn impressive anyways.
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« Reply #39 on: July 28, 2002, 06:31:36 AM »
Meh, I think take I\'ll an Anandtech Editor\'s words over yours any day. In one of his articles, he specifically said that he was presented with a demo of the FF movie on a machine sporting a GeForce4 Ti4600. Standard cinematic 24fps, ga ga ga. Technically DoomIII rapes the FF movie, but I guess there\'s always an aspect of subjectivity when it comes to design.

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« Reply #40 on: July 28, 2002, 06:42:03 AM »
Ok so it was 24fps.. PARDON ME MY LORD :p

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Technically DoomIII rapes the FF movie, but I guess there\'s always an aspect of subjectivity when it comes to design.


Talking about the FF technical demo or the movie?

The FF Tech demo just had two characters so I would not be suprised if Doom 3 is more advanced. (with all that lightning, effects ect)

However I dont see how Doom 3, a game is more technically advanced than the whole movie which was rendered on SGi workstations when the GeForce 4 card cant even render the movie, just two downgraded characters.
I can even see polygon edges on the fat guy\'s head in the Doom 3 screens.
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« Reply #41 on: July 28, 2002, 06:51:42 AM »
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Meh, I think take I\'ll an Anandtech Editor\'s words over yours any day. In one of his articles, he specifically said that he was presented with a demo of the FF movie on a machine sporting a GeForce4 Ti4600. Standard cinematic 24fps, ga ga ga. Technically DoomIII rapes the FF movie, but I guess there\'s always an aspect of subjectivity when it comes to design.


Anandtech? LOL, don\'t take what they say for granted.. I could name you a few articles that are just full of bullshit from them.

And btw; a GF4 might be some impressive hardware, but it will never come close to rendering a scene of FF:TSW in real time. No, Doom 3, how good it may look, will NEVER match the graphics presented in the movie FF:TSW. It\'s pretty damn pathetic to even compare a game to a movie...

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« Reply #42 on: July 28, 2002, 07:35:02 AM »
Can you guys say: MOVIE ??? :D

I WANT TO SEE A PROOF !!!
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« Reply #43 on: July 28, 2002, 07:43:14 AM »
THE EYE the info I posted in the article may be secret for inverstors and Sony Corp. If you know this article (if it is real) is due to a person that wrote it. Nobody could shoot a photograph or film a movie like in E3 or Tokyo Game Show. So I don\'t think me or any of us can find footage of that meeting.
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« Reply #44 on: July 28, 2002, 11:10:52 AM »
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Originally posted by Unicron!
I will be disapointed if  the PS3  cant handle Final Fantasy The Movie quality graphics perfectly.

I think that some of you are expecting too much for next generation graphics. I\'m sure that we\'ll see some serious things on PS3/Xbox2/whatever, but it won\'t even come close to FF:TSWI.

In other words: PS3\'s graphics will be as close to FF:TSWI as PS2\'s were to Toy Story :p


Doom3


FF:TSWI


Doom3


FF:TSWI


Doom III 3D models are low-res and look like plastic, the environments lack detail, the lightning is not even in the same league, and the textures are laughable compared to those in FF:TSWI. Yet it\'s still impressive because... it\'s a game :)

Come on, FF:TSWI looks almost real in movement.

PS: Sorry for the big Doom 3 pics (mods: feel free to edit).
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