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« Reply #75 on: August 17, 2002, 06:26:49 PM »
yes, we speak of darwin

the man who turned to christ on his deathbed

luckee, how can we bash the govt, when we\'re to blame for it?
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« Reply #76 on: August 17, 2002, 06:30:29 PM »
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yes, we speak of darwin

the man who turned to christ on his deathbed

luckee, how can we bash the govt, when we\'re to blame for it?



Who wouldn\'t, the idea of Christ is a lot nicer than just dieing.  But survival is something we see every day.  Now its the government displacing our personal freedoms.

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« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2002, 06:30:44 PM »
very easily..and we all arent to blame for it. for example..if I voted for bush and bush ****s something up..yup..partially my fault..but what happens when some ppl you didnt even vote for **** things up..not your fault.

on a side note..isnt that part of being american? Blaming everything on someone else when it becomes convenient for you?
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« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2002, 06:32:49 PM »
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very easily..and we all arent to blame for it. for example..if I voted for bush and bush ****s something up..yup..partially my fault..but what happens when some ppl you didnt even vote for **** things up..not your fault.

on a side note..isnt that part of being american? Blaming everything on someone else when it becomes convenient for you?



Like voting matters...  popular vote is worthless.  Too many Americans act victumized, they don\'t realize they are holding the bottle of vinegar.

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« Reply #79 on: August 17, 2002, 06:36:39 PM »
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Who wouldn\'t, the idea of Christ is a lot nicer than just dieing.  


I wouldnt..if ive gotten to that point..nothing is going to make me feel better.
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« Reply #80 on: August 17, 2002, 06:37:56 PM »
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I wouldnt..if ive gotten to that point..nothing is going to make me feel better.


yeah dieing sucks... what did you mean?

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« Reply #81 on: August 17, 2002, 06:38:10 PM »
yes, im not talking about voting

im talking about DOING something

whats stopping us, the youth of the nation, from becoming them?

nothing, except our lazy, following, hypocritical selves

but then again, the last US politician to try and change the system ended up getting killed by a patsy
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« Reply #82 on: August 17, 2002, 06:40:54 PM »
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yes, im not talking about voting

im talking about DOING something

whats stopping us, the youth of the nation, from becoming them?

nothing, except our lazy, following, hypocritical selves



I do something, when I can.... when i am not strugliing just to survive.  Thats the way the government likes it.  If you can just eek out a descent life, than yer complacent... but don\'t have enough time on your hands to start questioning.


and chances are if you are rich... yer probably vested.

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« Reply #83 on: August 17, 2002, 06:43:36 PM »
change from outside is almost futile unless you have many following.
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« Reply #84 on: August 17, 2002, 06:44:52 PM »
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yeah dieing sucks... what did you mean?


I meant that I wouldnt change  to looking for god on my deathbed. Im already dying..Im about to find out if "IT" exsists or not. Even if I call out to him..unlikely I would be accepted seeing how I only just accepted him 10 minutes before dying :)
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« Reply #85 on: August 17, 2002, 06:45:21 PM »
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change from outside is almost futile unless you have many following.


libertarians are the 3rd largest party with over 300 in office...  so we\'re getting thier..

Its called a silent cout de tat

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« Reply #86 on: August 17, 2002, 06:45:36 PM »
indeed

not me, im more the type to wait and see what happens

like greenpeace says; "Think globably, Act locally"

but its more like noone will listen to you, unless yer holding a weapon

"bullet lavolta. The Gun Didn\'t Know I Was Loaded "
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« Reply #87 on: August 17, 2002, 06:47:16 PM »
you hit the nails on the head on both posts.
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« Reply #88 on: August 17, 2002, 06:48:28 PM »
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I meant that I wouldnt change  to looking for god on my deathbed. Im already dying..Im about to find out if "IT" exsists or not. Even if I call out to him..unlikely I would be accepted seeing how I only just accepted him 10 minutes before dying :)



I am no church going holy roller by any means... i don\'t believe in any classical religion (or new age)  or athiesm or agnostic...  But i can\'t say with any convicition how I will feel while facing my death.  And I don\'t believe anyone can.

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« Reply #89 on: August 17, 2002, 06:51:04 PM »
That is true...so as of now..I will say that though. I doubt things will change..Im quite stubborn :) even when it is possibly for my own good.
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