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Who is the worst ever president?

linton
8 (34.8%)
ndrew Jackson
4 (17.4%)
eorge Dubya
6 (26.1%)
arter
5 (21.7%)

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Offline Mr. Kennedy
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« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2002, 06:11:06 PM »
1) JFK also saved us from nuclear war. :)

2) Polk was biased towards the south getting more slave territory than free.  What happened to 54\'40\' or fight?
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« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2002, 06:20:34 PM »
How about he was selling pardons in the last days of being in office.

Also, and here\'s a biggie . . . he lied under oath and HE WAS IMPEACHED!

You might argue that it was for a stupid reason, but it still happened. He has also been disbarred.

Now we want to giggle that he got his rocks off in the Oval office but the fact remains HE WAS IMPEACHED!

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« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2002, 06:40:31 PM »
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1) JFK also saved us from nuclear war. :)

2) Polk was biased towards the south getting more slave territory than free.  What happened to 54\'40\' or fight?


That wasn\'t his slogan.

And Clinton, whatever your feel about those minor issues, led to a very good time for our country while he was in office.  That is what matters.
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« Reply #33 on: August 25, 2002, 06:44:09 PM »
Those are not minor issues.

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« Reply #34 on: August 25, 2002, 06:59:08 PM »
That was indeed Polk\'s campaign slogan, and did the North get what he had promised.  No.  Maybe he did accomplish a lot in one term, but he certainly was supporting the south in slave fight.
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« Reply #35 on: August 25, 2002, 07:07:47 PM »
What did Polk ever do that was so bad to the north?  He brought at least 6 current states into the union, most of which became free states.  His treasury also benefitted the north as a whole.

He never promised to take all of Oregon, he promised to settle the Oregon Territory question.  If you look at your history, you\'ll see this was true.

And yes, those things with Clinton WERE minor issues.
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« Reply #36 on: August 25, 2002, 07:10:38 PM »
That\'s why we are doomed. The bar is so low now that anyone can jump over it.

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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2002, 07:12:02 PM »
If an issue doesn\'t affect the daily lives of Americans beyond just adding gossip, then it isn\'t major.  He didn\'t hurt anyone when he did that stuff with Monica except himself and his family.
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« Reply #38 on: August 25, 2002, 07:13:57 PM »
The fact is Polk ran w/ the campaign slogan 54\'40\' or fight, and won.  At first it would appear that all was well, but britain made a deal that differed from 54\'40 and favored the south in terms of territory.  He promised territory and got only half of his so called slogan, and he did it with little fight.  Look in your history book.
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« Reply #39 on: August 25, 2002, 07:16:09 PM »
So are you saying in a period when we were just done fighting Mexico, the right thing to do would be to once again go to war with Britain?
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« Reply #40 on: August 25, 2002, 07:26:56 PM »
Well, I am not surprised. That\'s how a lot of people feel.

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« Reply #41 on: August 25, 2002, 07:29:28 PM »
They all suck. Where\'s Hitler when you need him? j/k :laughing:

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« Reply #42 on: August 25, 2002, 07:30:28 PM »
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Well, I am not surprised. That\'s how a lot of people feel.

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And are you saying that\'s wrong?
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« Reply #43 on: August 25, 2002, 07:32:37 PM »
Yes I am.

I\'m hitting the hay and I\'ll be more than happy to discuss this more tomorrow.

Nitey nite. :)

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« Reply #44 on: August 25, 2002, 07:39:43 PM »
I guess I just think it\'s wrong that a president is judged so much for things that don\'t affect people in any real way, and so little at times by what they actually did politically.
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