worst president ever

Originally posted by ooseven


Yeah by Starting even more World Trouble Spots

:rolleyes:

We started nothing. There were two building that were leveled and 2800 plus people died just because they went to work.

We take out Saddam and that region will thank us.

Ace

Originally posted by Ace


We started nothing. There were two building that were leveled and 2800 plus people died just because they went to work.

We take out Saddam and that region will thank us.

Ace

We started by not minding our own business. Thats a big reason why alot of countries cant stand the US.

No they will not thank us, it will only provoke more trouble. Taking out Saddam for no reason now would be one of the worst mistakes the US could make now.

I respectfully disagree, Luckee.

They hate us because of our success. That\'s why they chose the WTC towers. It was very symbolic for them to hit those towers.

Ace

That wasnt the only reason. They hit the towers to take many lives and choke the economy and they achieved both.

Our success is not really the reason, but more about how we became so successful. We take what ever we want. Supporting Isreal is also a reason for many..looks like favortism.

I just don\'t see it from that point of view.

Ace

Reality and what you and I perceive are totally different things

Originally posted by Ace


We started nothing. There were two building that were leveled and 2800 plus people died just because they went to work.

We take out Saddam and that region will thank us.

Ace

Yes, and everyone in the regions we\'re ****ing with was in on that :rolleyes:

By the way, we tried to take out Saddam before.  Most people, in fact, did not thank us.  In case you hadn\'t noticed, that entire region hates us.  I don\'t blame them either.

Originally posted by Ace
I respectfully disagree, Luckee.

They hate us because of our success. That\'s why they chose the WTC towers. It was very symbolic for them to hit those towers.

Ace

Oh, so it wasn\'t that we\'ve interfered with national level politics in other nations at a rate of once ever 9 months since World War 2?  Or the fact that we try to police the world?  Well, that\'s a relief :rolleyes:

I don\'t think I said what your stating. If you want to be a self hating American, be my guest. It\'s free country. Isn\'t it?

If Saddam is gone there will be one less distabilizing influence in the region.

The world often comes to us for help, and guess what . . . we go and help.

Stop rolling your damn eyes at me.

Ace

Sorry...my eyes have a mind of their own sometimes :nut:

And I\'m not a self hating American.  I think to be a true patriot in our system, you shouldn\'t blindly follow the government, but rather find where it goes wrong, and try to improve it.  There are definite faults in our government, and I\'m just saying I want to improve them to make our country better.  

Well gee.. look what happened last time we tried to just stay outta things and mind our own buisness. Hitler rampaged clear to the Atlantic.. with the tiney lil island country of England bein all that stood between him and complete European dominance. Yeah.. yeah.. so he lied about Poland, Denmark, Belgium, France, and England... but I bet he would have stopped there. :rolleyes:

Not to mention we had another nation on the complete opposite side of the globe completely decimate our Naval forces in the Pacific in only 4 hours, costing us over 3,000 American lives and nearly crippling our war effort permenantly. (Had they hit our oil reserves just a few miles away.. they would have)

Hmm.. yep.. that policy work real good dosen\'t it. Gee.. I guess we jus never should have fought the communists. So what if they\'re taking over countries at alarming rates and sneaking medium range Nuclear missles into small, impovershied, communist nations right in our back yard. It\'s none of our buisness, after all.

And you don\'t think Iraq is just a little bit different than Russia or Germany?  Besides, World War 2 was very different.  What nations are being taken over by Iraq right now?  I don\'t see Iraq bringing nukes into other nations.  In fact, I don\'t even see them having nukes.  I personally do not believe they have weapons of mass destruction.

And don\'t get me started on the Cold War...

Originally posted by Ace

The world often comes to us for help, and guess what . . . we go and help.


Ace

Only when something in our best intrest is at stake..IE..gulf war was about oil instead of poor little kuwait.

The US helping everyone isn\'t something to brag about.  I\'d much rather us be into isolationism.

Originally posted by SonyFan
Well gee.. look what happened last time we tried to just stay outta things and mind our own buisness. Hitler rampaged clear to the Atlantic.. with the tiney lil island country of England bein all that stood between him and complete European dominance. Yeah.. yeah.. so he lied about Poland, Denmark, Belgium, France, and England... but I bet he would have stopped there. :rolleyes:

Not to mention we had another nation on the complete opposite side of the globe completely decimate our Naval forces in the Pacific in only 4 hours, costing us over 3,000 American lives and nearly crippling our war effort permenantly. (Had they hit our oil reserves just a few miles away.. they would have)

Hmm.. yep.. that policy work real good dosen\'t it. Gee.. I guess we jus never should have fought the communists. So what if they\'re taking over countries at alarming rates and sneaking medium range Nuclear missles into small, impovershied, communist nations right in our back yard. It\'s none of our buisness, after all.

Once again we weren\'t minding our own affairs. Japn attacked us because we created anti-trade agreements with countless other countries against them. not only that, but we had a naval blockade on their homeland.

THAT is why they attacked us at pearl harbor. granted we did the blockade to stop them from taking over china, but the point remains, if we didnt ban them from trading goods, they probably wouldnt have bothered with us.

The Germans declared war on us..probably b/c of retalliating against their allies in Japan.

Originally posted by Bozco
The US helping everyone isn\'t something to brag about.  I\'d much rather us be into isolationism.

I often feel the same way. Sometimes I think we should just let it all go to hell and build a giant wall around our country.

Ace