worst president ever

Originally posted by SonyFan


See.. the problem with cruise missles is that they fire.. and blow up. They don\'t chase the enemy.. they don\'t stick around to make sure the job got done.. they don\'t help the locals reconstruct their homes when one of em goes astray.  

Well you Americans had better get your weapon builders on the job.Geez and here was me thinking you guys were so technical.

J/K

The only time we should ever get into anything is if their is going to be a world war.  Things like 9/11 wouldn\'t have happened if we didn\'t feel the need to get into every countries business.

Even then we should stay out of it untill we are attacked.

Well until were atleast being threatened.

The only problem with that kind of thinking is if the world is going to hell in a hand basket then we will probably be next.  Then it might be too late for all of us.

Ace

Are you serious?..if anything, it should be a little easier with them killing themselves. I dont think it would ever be the end of the US unless we continue to piss people off and making more enemies.

Originally posted by Ace
The only problem with that kind of thinking is if the world is going to hell in a hand basket then we will probably be next.  Then it might be too late for all of us.

Ace

How???????  Some parts could go to hell but its not our problem if two middle east countries want to annilate eachother.

You guys pounce very quickly.

Is it not a smart idea to try and foster democratic ideals on a troublesome country?

I flip flop on this a lot and I can be persuaded to let the rest of the world sink into the ocean.

Ace

We try to help one country only to make more enemies.

We dont want our country to be a lame duck and keep to themselves, that makes us look VERY weak.

Ah so afganistan(sp?) hijacked multiple plains, killed several thosand people and destroyed symbols of our country.  We\'ll just ask them to not do that again and move on.  Yeah right. :rolleyes:

And why do you ask that we were so involved.  Cause good ole Osama felt that bombing a few US Embassies would do the world good.  We should have let him bomb more.  Yeah right. :rolleyes:

We do things for a reason, you cause trouble in our country and we will get you.  We aint a bunch of pussies!

Originally posted by The Hurricane
We dont want our country to be a lame duck and keep to themselves, that makes us look VERY weak.

Who cares if we LOOK weak, keeps our people alive.

And why do you ask that we were so involved.  Cause good ole Osama felt that bombing a few US Embassies would do the world good.  We should have let him bomb more.  Yeah right. :rolleyes:

If you thought for half a second you would relize that if the US didn\'t butt into all the middle eastern affairs then Osama would have no problem with us.

Ah so afganistan(sp?) hijacked multiple plains, killed several thosand people and destroyed symbols of our country.  We\'ll just ask them to not do that again and move on.  Yeah right. :rolleyes:

Refer to above.  We don\'t butt in, we don\'t get attacked.

We do things for a reason, you cause trouble in our country and we will get you.  We aint a bunch of pussies!

Yes, we look like hardasses.  Now we make plenty of enemies.

Originally posted by Ace
You guys pounce very quickly.

Is it not a smart idea to try and foster democratic ideals on a troublesome country?

I flip flop on this a lot and I can be persuaded to let the rest of the world sink into the ocean.

Ace

Those dummy governments the US is notorius for setting up only further hurts things usually. People get all pissy b/c they feel we are forcing our way of life upon them.

 IMO it\'s our vanity that allows us to think that we have a moral right, scratch that, obligation to go around righting the worlds wrongs. Every time we do it, all we get is grief.

The Europeans think we\'re a bunch of warmongers. The Arabs think OBL is a hero, the Somalians shot at us for trying to feed them. The vietnamese ran us out too.

We need to start applying our ideals to our foriegn policies. We believe in freedom and letting people live thier lives even if we don\'t agree with them. That\'s the theory at least. Let\'s let other nations alone and let them live thier lives the way they choose. If they want new leadership they\'ll get it the same way we did in 1776.

Originally posted by The Hurricane
We dont want our country to be a lame duck and keep to themselves, that makes us look VERY weak.

Ah so afganistan(sp?) hijacked multiple plains, killed several thosand people and destroyed symbols of our country.  We\'ll just ask them to not do that again and move on.  Yeah right. :rolleyes:

And why do you ask that we were so involved.  Cause good ole Osama felt that bombing a few US Embassies would do the world good.  We should have let him bomb more.  Yeah right. :rolleyes:

We do things for a reason, you cause trouble in our country and we will get you.  We aint a bunch of pussies!

If it were only that simple huh? Thats not the beginning..

I am not sure if we can just cover our eyes and hope the outside world leaves us alone.

Ace

Originally posted by Ace
I am not sure if we can just cover our eyes and hope the outside world leaves us alone.

Ace

You don\'t get the point.  If we stay out of other countries business we won\'t cause nearly as many problems.  Once countries threaten us, then we act.