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Sony delays online games
Caitlin Fitzsimmons
AUGUST 30, 2002 SONY has delayed the local introduction of its online game service as it strives to find a workable business model.

The video game giant introduced its online service in North America earlier this week, but will not announce its plans for the PAL territories, including Australia, until October.

The service, which allows PlayStation 2 owners to play multi-player games over the internet, will compete with Microsoft\'s Xbox Live service for Xbox owners.

While Sony is offering the service for both dial-up and broadband customers in North America, it has committed to a broadband-only model in the PAL territories.

Sony Computer Entertainment Australia managing director Michael Ephraim said the introduction of the service was not delayed for technical problems, but to find a better solution for Sony, its business partners and its customers.

The PAL territories included dozens of different countries with different levels of broadband and PS2 penetration.

"Australia has a fairly high uptake of broadband," Mr Ephraim said. "It\'s not leading the pack, but it\'s not at the bottom of the pack. My opinion is that Australia will be one of the territories connected earlier in the piece."

Mr Ephraim said Australia had particular challenges with its large and sparsely populated land mass and the prevalence of volume-based pricing plans.

"The perception is that broadband costs are high and online gaming is data intensive," he said. "We\'re in discussions with different ISPs about a time-based charge and a different billing structure to make it more appealing to consumers."

Mr Ephraim said Sony would spurn the centralised approach taken by Microsoft with Xbox Live.

He ruled out an exclusive relationship with a single ISP or peer-to-peer gaming, but said there were many details yet to be determined.

For example, the company had not decided whether to run the infrastructure or allow ISPs to host the games on their own server farms - and whether there would be dedicated servers for Australia or not.

"We do not anticipate just one service choice for consumers under one name," Mr Ephraim said. "There will be many service choices and the business model of Sony will be very open."

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe planned to charge a "modest" subscription fee for the service, but Mr Ephraim was not certain whether that would be levied in Australia.

"Every country is looking at the cost factor based on local broadband costs and the local culture of what people are willing to pay," he said. "You have to give a service that\'s affordable and it\'s an issue we\'re still working through (in Australia)."

It would be "nice" to be first to market but it was important to make sure the offer "made sense" for consumers and partners.

He promised more details in October.


http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,5001271%5E15306%5E%5Enbv%5E,00.html


I thought  it was 56k & BB and free well thats no online for me thank you Sony you bastards:mad:

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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2002, 03:28:13 AM »
Shameful. Sony laughs at PAL territories. The games are twice as expensive as USA ones, the games are pathetic conversions for PAL systems, they\'re always late, and now:

No dial-up for PAL owners
Pay for online services
We don\'t know when the service will begin

What\'s happening here? Europe is getting angry when Sony announces these news :(
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2002, 03:31:26 AM »
Bleh... we\'re taking it in the manhole yet again.
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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2002, 03:43:28 AM »
if this is what sony r planning to do, then they\'d be better off not releasing the NA in europe or any other pal territories.
and if this turns out to be true then sony can go fuk themselves, i\'ve given them enough of my money as it is and i dont plan on giving them more anytime soon.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2002, 03:48:33 AM »
I\'m with Tyrant... I\'ve enough with the high games\' price, so I won\'t get online paying for the service. Sony will fail in Europe if ask for money.
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2002, 04:46:16 AM »
Adan, dont be a dumb ass.

Games do not cost twice as much in PAL territories. Exchange rates equal game prices out.

IE - US games are RRP $49.95, AUS games are RRP $89.99 (most anyway. The current ER equals it out.

Don\'t have a bitch, its not SONY\'s fault that countries like Spain, France and Greece can\'t get their act together and introduce better Broadband services.

56k is way to friggen slow to play online properly. Broadband penatration in AUS is at about 8% out of all Internet users.

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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2002, 04:57:02 AM »
If its true (I want to hear it from SCEE not some no-name Australian guy from a not very known Australian mag) then I say **** it.

Im not going online. I REFUSE to pay a fee.. I ALREADY PAYED FOR THE FRICKIN GAME IN THE STORE.

No thank you, PC gaming for me :(
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2002, 05:21:43 AM »
I\'m with Adan, Fastson and Tyrant, they\'re really taking the piss this time. The exchange rate doesnt equal it out for us Racer, we are paying £39.99 - £44.99 for new games (from stores that is, net companies sell for less) That works out at around $60 - 70 US. Its an absoloute joke!!!! I wont go into conversions, or release delays.......
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2002, 06:03:55 AM »
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56k is way to friggen slow to play online properly. Broadband penatration in AUS is at about 8% out of all Internet users.

and how many of those 8% own a ps2 MAYBE 1%~ 16000, so basically sony is doing what MS is doing and isolating a large part of the market in PAL reigons. only difference is MS is offering something better.
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2002, 06:26:54 AM »
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Adan, dont be a dumb ass.

Games do not cost twice as much in PAL territories. Exchange rates equal game prices out.

IE - US games are RRP $49.95, AUS games are RRP $89.99 (most anyway. The current ER equals it out.


Example:
FFX USA= 39$
FFX Europe = 69€
$=€

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Don\'t have a bitch, its not SONY\'s fault that countries like Spain, France and Greece can\'t get their act together and introduce better Broadband services.


Europe has good services of ADSL, who said it hasn\'t? Take note of this file, it\'s the number of ADSLs\' subscribers in the world till 1st Jan 2002. And it\'s a pitty it isn\'t more updated cause this years is a bomb over here of adsl services. EU should be over USA in number of ADSL lines. But take a look of the file.

Total US: 4,351,000
Total EUROPE: 4,192,000
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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2002, 07:29:13 AM »
Me takes PAL adapter and flushes it down toilet!

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« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2002, 07:37:28 AM »
Its funny cause all the xbox owners were saying sony would screw us over it. Europe gets phuked on everything.
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« Reply #12 on: August 31, 2002, 08:23:02 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: August 31, 2002, 08:26:58 AM »
as much as I hate to say it - there\'s a reason for this. Sony isn\'t doing this to "phuk" us Europeans over - just think about it, why would they do something like this? Microsofts going online with Xbox Live in November, so I suspect Sony has a damn good reason for doing this.

As for paying a fee - I hope Sony isn\'t serious about this - because if they are - then... well... **** them... :(

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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2002, 10:16:34 AM »
I don´t get you... most folks pay for Online Games on PC ! So what ? If the Game is fun: I´ll pay...
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