Clowd - LIC.. there\'s a difference between religous faith and scientific theories. Scientific theories have ocassionally been proven right. The whole of our technology (aside from mistakes like what made plastic) is based off of people making educated guesses based on what they currently know.. testing those theories.. and then going back to further refine their theories based on weither or not the experiment was successful or not. A perfect example is something that Titan touched upon.. the "flat world".
Back in the days of Copurnicus.. the vast majority of people and people believed the world was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth. Many scholors, however, thought that the Earth was round and revolved around the sun. They couldn\'t prove their theorys.. only make educated guesses. Now, in todays world of space travel and super high powered telescopes.. we can PROVE that that Conpernicus and the ancient scholors were right.
Right now, you\'re just looking at current theories and saying "Well that can\'t be proven so it\'s no better than religeous faith". However, that\'s overlooking the countless theories scientists and scholors have come up with before and HAVE proven.. yet.. where has faith ever proven itself? Where has the church ever proven anything of what they say to be true? Sure scientific theories are usual wrong, incomplete, or mis-interpreted 80% of the time.. but over the years the score is something like 10,000 Science - Religeon 0.
This is why I have far more faith in science when talking about real-world applications and discoveries than the bible.
you think science as a grasp on the world around us, puh, they dont even know what electrons look like, or why a flag waves in the wind.... - Clowd
Heh.. you must be joking. Well, since I don\'t have all the facts about seeing electrons I can\'t debate that.. but as for the flag waving.. well look at it this way. Air is made up of the same things everything else is... atoms - matter. K? It also has all the properties of matter.. it has weight, momentum, density.. ect. Weight is simply how fast or hard an object pulls against a certain amount of gravity. (Usually measured by earth gravity since that\'s where we live.. it\'s used as our base unit and called G\'s) This is why there\'s air on the earth.. because the earth\'s mass pulls down on the air\'s molocules just like everything else. (By compairison, the moon\'s mass isn\'t enough to keep air\'s light molocules close to it, thus it\'s vented into space were it put there.
Ok.. so now that that\'s established, we can talk about friction. If the earth were perfectly smooth there would be no wind since there would be nothing to "catch" the air molocules and push them along as the earth rotates. As it is, everything on the surface of the earth act as a kind of sail which catches air molocules and pushes them along.. which in turn pushes the air molocules in front of them. Kind of like a fan does. On a grand scale, the resulting chaos has come to be known as our weather patterns.
So now we\'ve established how air flows. You know by feeling the wind that it does indeed push against other objects (due to it\'s mass). Now, a flag is nothing more than a thin strip of cloth. When the air pushes against it, it pushes with enough force to lift the flag perpedicular to the ground since the flag itself doesn\'t have enough mass for the earth\'s gravity to hold onto. (Much like air itself) Well, it does.. but I\'ll talk about that in a second. Normally the flag would just fly off with the wind.. but since it\'s anchored to a pole at one end usually it cannot. The force of the wind pushing the flag fighting against the force of the pole pulling the flag back against the wind causes the flag to unfurl and wave in the wind. (Every force exerted has an equal force pushing back against it.. this is what gives a gun recoil, rockets their propulsion, and makes your fist hurt when you hit a wall) The "flapping" comes from the wind not being strong enough to fight gravity and changes in the wind\'s speed and direction. A strong enough wind WILL hold a flag almost perfectly streight out.
So there ya have it.. why a flag flaps in the wind.
Science never said the earth was flat. People believed it. Besides, that was during the middle ages and there was no such thing as science until the Renaissance. When the Renaissance period came, people realized the earth was round. Science never said anything about htat - Titan
Acutally most people already knew that the earth was round well before the renaissance came to being. The time that the "Flat earth" theory was really popular was durring the greek empire.. but even then most scholors and learned individuals already knew it was round anyhow. The only thing Columbus proved is that India is a f*ck of a lot farther from Spain going west than by going east.
