Sept 11 Tribute

Vapor, I have to say that article sums up pretty much everything that I\'ve been bitching about since 9-12

What the **** is wrong with you guys.  Is your hobby BEING ASSHOLES.  You aren\'t better than any of us.  If you can\'t stand whats going on, bitching about it wont do any good.  You aren\'t anything but a pesimistic asshole who a) thinks you\'re better everyone else b) should be shut the **** up.

A tragic event pulls a country together, and you pry it apart with your stupid lectures.

I may be a kid, but I\'m a better person in a whole than you guys who bitching about america\'s partiotism.

Americans are not a race, they are people in one whole in one country.  If anything, you should be bitching about the human race.

Do everyone a favor and shut the asshole in your face you call a "mouth."


This isn\'t targeted toward anyone but Omen, who I thought was supposed to be a soon to be police man, which in my eyes is very respectible (although I wouldn\'t want any person like that protecting me), or anyone else agreeing with that article.

After reading your newspapers - after listening to your corporate media\'s propagandistic version of the so-called "War Against Terrorism" now under way in Afghanistan - after seeing your flag-decked SUV\'s with the Pisces emblems on the one side and National Rifle Association stickers on the other - after enduring this national adrenalin rush daily for the past two months - I have concluded that you are, by and large, a shallow, callous, insular, naively manipulable and infinitely self-righteous lot.

"Your this" and "your that" and this person claims to be of this country?  Somehow, I highly doubt that.  How can someone "endure" this for two months and then openly criticize from a soap box that we should basically repent and be saved?  Yah, we\'re all doomed, that\'s not news at all.  It\'s in our nature to destroy ourselves and our patriotic nature won\'t aid in that inevitable conclusion.

Life is too short to critisize others as openly as that and then live in the country that openly shows it\'s colors when something like this happens.

We\'re all a bunch of hipocrites admittedly, but deep inside, we all feel pride for the good we do.  We do feel pride when we serve our country, when we help others, when we feel the need to create.  There\'s a certain satisfaction to it all that is undeniable, but at times, we need a little wake up call that tells us that we are not invincible, that we are not Gods, that we are not our f*cking khakis.

If you people genuinely want to b*tch about how screwed up this nation is, good for you, but when the time comes, we all want the same thing.  Safety, joy, and life.  We need and we want and that\'s in our nature.  We\'re only human.

I have nothing worng with someone who loves their country, I love my country.  However many Americans feel as though it is their right to be horrible people, and be so incredibly self involved as to not care about the rest of the world.

Then we have a tragic event, and it becomes the popular thing to be patriotic.  But where were the patriots before 9-11, hell where were the patriots two weeks ago?

I\'m sorry, but Americans are not perfect, we have no more right to the earths resourses as anyone else.  We don\'t have the right to destroy the world, and it really sad that many of you can\'t see that.

as for the fall of the US.  It will happen, I don\'t want this to happen, because it will be horific for myself and my family, but history has taught us that Super Powers come and go, look at the Roman, Greek, Mongol, Brittish empires.  They all ruled their world at one time, but have either fallen, or lost much of their power.

I am a true patriot, I loved America before the terrorist attack, and I still love this country.  It\'s the people in it that make me sick sometimes.

Originally posted by Ryu


"Your this" and "your that" and this person claims to be of this country?  Somehow, I highly doubt that.  How can someone "endure" this for two months and then openly criticize from a soap box that we should basically repent and be saved?  Yah, we\'re all doomed, that\'s not news at all.  It\'s in our nature to destroy ourselves and our patriotic nature won\'t aid in that inevitable conclusion.
 

I think by "your" they are specifically singling out the majority of Americans that the article describes, not all Americans in general.

And I only said the article was interesting, not that I agreed with it. However I really agree with the part that says we should be humbled.

EDIT: Nevermind, the "your" thing doesn\'t make sense. And I just remembered the guy who wrote this is an Austrailian that lives in California. Go figure.

EDIT 2: I\'m wrong. It was a true American that did "supposedly" write this.

Originally posted by theomen
I have nothing worng with someone who loves their country, I love my country.  However many Americans feel as though it is their right to be horrible people, and be so incredibly self involved as to not care about the rest of the world.

Then we have a tragic event, and it becomes the popular thing to be patriotic.  But where were the patriots before 9-11, hell where were the patriots two weeks ago?

I\'m sorry, but Americans are not perfect, we have no more right to the earths resourses as anyone else.  We don\'t have the right to destroy the world, and it really sad that many of you can\'t see that.

as for the fall of the US.  It will happen, I don\'t want this to happen, because it will be horific for myself and my family, but history has taught us that Super Powers come and go, look at the Roman, Greek, Mongol, Brittish empires.  They all ruled their world at one time, but have either fallen, or lost much of their power.

I am a true patriot, I loved America before the terrorist attack, and I still love this country.  It\'s the people in it that make me sick sometimes.

What you don\'t realize is that is that for a period of time we all took advantage of it not realizing it.  It may be stupid for something that to happen to pull us together, but it did change people.  You can\'t expect people to form human flags everyday, its just like a holiday.  For Christians we dont always have a tree in hour living room for Jesus, but they\'re still christians.

It was just a giant awakening.

"Every generation in it\'s darkest hour shines it\'s brighest."

Please don\'t tell me thats a quote from George Dubbyah.

I dunno but I found it poetic.

I agree, and hell I really wouldn\'t like it if we were forming human flags every day.  But unfortunetly the lack of patriotism is not the big problem, the problem is that we as Americans have a gluttonous society.  Many (not all) Americans are driving around in their SUVs that get a mile to the gallon, eating 40 pounds of food, weigh 400 pounds, leave the A/C on, and all their lights on all the time, use 1000\'s of gallons watering their lawns, because it\'s their RIGHT!  And while doing so, they are destroying the planet, and condeming the rest of the world to an early grave.  Unfortunetly many people just don\'t understand what they do not only affects them, but it also effects the rest of the world.

However, we are not the only peoplee doing such things, but since we are such a large country filled with these people it easy to use us as an example.

It is actually a good quote.

Then why not target it at mankind and not just the US?

because it\'s alot easier to say the US, since we have the majority of the people with this mentality.

Show some respect and stop ruining this thread.

This isn\'t about who was right or wrong, if America deserved it, or if Americans are evil.

This thread is all about the victims and a way for us to offer our sympathy and condolences.

Don\'t have anything nice to say?

STFU and get out.

Hmm... I hope that was not directed towards me or even theomen for that matter.

Ashford I\'ve seen enough sympathy and grieving to last me three life times, yes it was a horrible tragedy, yes I felt for the families who lost loved ones, yes I\'m proud to be an American...but for god sakes man, ENOUGH WITH THIS BULLSHIT.

Vapor I don\'t have a problem with what you think, but you would be totally different if someone you knew like a parent, sibling, friend etc... died there.  These people were murdered, and for a dumb reason.