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Offline luckee
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« Reply #30 on: September 15, 2002, 07:25:18 PM »
One is a retard to not be able to distinguish a gun and a stungun. Im also wondering about a struggle since the guy was shot in the back. The only thing I could imagine is that the cop would have had the guy around the neck or something like how a bank robber would hold a hostage.

There has got to be more to this and I cant find anymore info on it.
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« Reply #31 on: September 15, 2002, 07:26:48 PM »
So your admitting that you\'re completely guessing on what happened?  And how could you call one a retard for feeling a handle that is the same shape and grabbing it in a hurry?

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« Reply #32 on: September 15, 2002, 07:29:52 PM »
:rolleyes:
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« Reply #33 on: September 15, 2002, 07:33:55 PM »
Im not guessing anything except for if their was a struggle which the article doesnt mention, to how the guy would have been shot in the back.

The weight of each and balance is quite different. Goods cops know these things. This guy was a moron at best.
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« Reply #34 on: September 15, 2002, 10:46:30 PM »
have to agree with luckee, the guy was a moron.  Though it was probably (I hope) an accident.  There is a big difference in the weight between most firearms, and tasers.  Also anyone who has fired a handgun knows that even a difference of a few ounces is noticible.  He would have also noticed a different grip instantly.

My guess about this whole thing is that he panicked reached for his taser, instead he found his side arm and shot the guy.

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« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2002, 02:22:08 AM »
so, then you agree with us
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« Reply #36 on: September 16, 2002, 09:02:39 AM »
Put a loudmouth like luckee in a uniform and send him out to tangle with a drunken somalian. We\'ll see how calm and professional he acts...  :rolleyes:

While I am sick of hearing about the police being "heroes", I most certainly would not want to do their job. Some can be pricks, but I don\'t think any of them would risk their job and pensions to shoot a drunken bastard in the back. Sounds like a simple mistake to me...  ;)
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« Reply #37 on: September 16, 2002, 10:32:17 AM »
i agree with luckee that the guy had to have been mildly retarded to shoot the other guy, but I also agree with mm that it was an accident.

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« Reply #38 on: September 16, 2002, 10:41:22 AM »
the stungun would feel EXACTLY like a handgun, ESPECIALLY in a fight or flight situation

the officer probably felt in bodily harm so in reflex he grabbed what he thought was the stungun

we all agree that is was a stupid mistake, but police are humans and therefore idiots by nature, but no more than any other profession
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« Reply #39 on: September 16, 2002, 10:49:23 AM »
I\'ve fired both (glock and taser, assuming that his standard issue was a glock 9mm, or 40 cal), and the grip of the Taser is much different than  that of a side arm, also the weight and balance is different.  He knew it was not the taser, and in the heat of battle shot the guy.
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« Reply #40 on: September 16, 2002, 11:10:42 AM »
Thank you omen..my feelings on the subject, just a little more clearly.

Its just sad the guy still has a job.

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but police are humans and therefore idiots by nature, but no more than any other profession


No one has disputed that.
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« Reply #41 on: September 16, 2002, 11:23:57 AM »
and like all humans this guy made a mistake, just unfortunelty for him he\'s in a business that a mistake can cause serious bodily injury, and/or death.  It\'s basically the same a Doctor who\'s doing an opperation, run\'s into something that shouldn\'t be there, or something he\'s unfamilure with and wings it.  However his winging it is the wrong call and it causes the patient to loose their arm.

Both made mistakes, and both little mistakes could have been either on the fly decisions, or careless mistakes.  Either way, the mistake causes someone else injury.

at the very least, the officer should be suspended and investigated.  Because either he isn\'t familure with his weapons, or has poor decision making skills.  Either way, he shouldn\'t be on the street right now.

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« Reply #42 on: September 16, 2002, 11:30:15 AM »
u think police are the only profession where mistakes can cause bodily harm?

lol

professional wrestlers, athletes, food service, ERT\'s, astronauts, electricians, carpenters, cement finishers, airline pilots, dentists, doctors, surgeons, etc...

give it up, seriously

the man made a mistake, and the guy that got shot was asking for it

what happens when a cop shoots a kid in a dark alley cause the kid had a toy gun that looked VERY authentic.  then what?

bash cops all you want, it takes kahones to do that job i know you dont have, and know what?  neither do i
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« Reply #43 on: September 16, 2002, 11:41:43 AM »
How can you tell me what balls I have? I never wanted to be a cop..not even as a kid..always a firefighter..but thats besides the point. I couldnt be a cop..not b/c of a lack of balls..but a lack of paitience..You have alot of nerve....we already know you dont have the balls, you have to flex "authority" in here  by threatening to ban some tool that called you racist..lol

As for the dark alley, the cop would need better sense..its called demanded for a possible offender to drop his/her weapon. There is a right and wrong way to do things in life..most choose the wrong way and needless shit happens.

I find it funny how me speaking out about something I despise that can affect any one of us..I get bashed by ppl which are not affected by what I say.

The guy did not deserve to get shot...

why do you keep pointing out that everyone makes mistakes..I know this..never denied this..but if you would have read my posts, you would notice that I will make an effort to point out everysingle bad..crooked or retard on the force when ever I can.
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« Reply #44 on: September 16, 2002, 12:08:33 PM »
im sorry luckee, were you saying something?

i like how you get mad when yer out in the open and cant hide behind yer cocky attitude

its so cute
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wanna know why i couldnt be a cop?  i cant stand the youth today.  "some people" *cough* hate cops cause they feel the cops bust on them for smoking weed and drinking underage, and generally being little dicks

case in point-

kid 1 - \'yo man, this damn cop pulled me over cause i had my neons under my ride on, and i was banging muh ghetto gunsmokers mp3 too loud while driving thru the burbs, errr i mean da hood\'

kid 2 - \'ya man, thats wack.  why those cops always gotta be dissin us, yo.  we just be trying to get our swerve on\'

i have no patience when it comes to crap like that

these kids wanna say F#$ the police and think thier hard, but they burst into tears when they have to call mommy to come bail them out

its called inferiority complex

theres no sense of being when yer not making a difference

it can be very painfull and frustrating
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