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« Reply #120 on: October 17, 2002, 11:36:42 AM »
yeah but if you start to get rid of all the guns....... u know then make it harder to get them..... i mean the only peep who would be able to get them is terriosts....i mean not normall peep,
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« Reply #121 on: October 17, 2002, 11:37:58 AM »
I\'m all for stricter gun control.  Gun nuts want to enable EVERYBODY to be armed, as a method of reducing crime.  Of course most gun murders are committed against family members and friends, so it\'s hard to see how this is going to help reduce the murder rate.

Everyone should see Michael Moore\'s new film Bowling for Columbine when it comes to your city.  It\'s a real eyeopener on the issue of gun violence in the US.  The point he makes is that it\'s not JUST the proliferation of firearms in the US that produces so many gun-related homocides here.  Canada also has lots of firearms, but they only have a miniscule number of gun deaths.

It\'s something about our media, meaning the news media, and how they statistically exaggerate the number of violent crimes occuring in the real world by highlighting every one to the exclusion of all else.  Stats show that while gun violence has been decreasing, the number of stories about gun violence on television news has increased dramatically.  Shows like "Cops" inadvertantly villify minorities, and contribute to white america\'s fear of african americans and other minorities.  

I\'m just repeating his points from the movie.  You should really see it and think about it.  The movie gives a lot of food for thought.
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« Reply #122 on: October 17, 2002, 11:44:11 AM »
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yeah but if you start to get rid of all the guns....... u know then make it harder to get them..... i mean the only peep who would be able to get them is terriosts....i mean not normall peep,


Not really..more than %85 of guns used in crimes are illegal anyway. Laws like that only prevent good law abiding citizens from buying. CRiminals will still be able to get one from behind larrys liquors.
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« Reply #123 on: October 17, 2002, 11:57:33 AM »
u know what i mean though , i mean lots of peep own guns in usa, in there own home for protection or whatever.. and this guy may be just a "normal american" i mean not a terrosist..... so what to say he hasnt bought a high powered rifle over the counter, maybe had it for years.... seperately bought a telescopic lense..... u know what i mean
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« Reply #124 on: October 17, 2002, 12:00:27 PM »
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Not really..more than %85 of guns used in crimes are illegal anyway. Laws like that only prevent good law abiding citizens from buying. CRiminals will still be able to get one from behind larrys liquors.
I disagree with that.  Better gun laws would impose increased restriction not only on the buyer of a weapon, but also on firearm importation and manufacture.  That would reduce the total volume of guns in the US market, both legal and illegal.  With greater restrictions, the market shrinks, fewer guns are sold legally, therefore fewer are available to be stolen, therefore fewer are available to be resold behind larry\'s liquors.  It doesn\'t happen overnight, but it will definitely happen with tigher gun control laws.
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« Reply #125 on: October 17, 2002, 12:02:24 PM »
Like illegal drugs from mexico,central and south america right?

As for topic..somewhat anyway..

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« Reply #126 on: October 17, 2002, 12:08:05 PM »
rofl at that link... where did you find that??? man that is funny
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« Reply #127 on: October 17, 2002, 12:11:19 PM »
It doesn\'t take anything more than 4000 year old technology to manufacture marajuana or cocaine.  All you need is a field, manual labor, and a political environment where you won\'t have any threats from the Federales.  

Manufacturing firearms however requires at least 19th century metalworking and fabricating technology, and access to raw materials that are only available in areas of human population.  Also, such an enterprise is not nearly as profitable as the drug trade.  I don\'t think we would encounter such a huge problem with smuggled firearms in the event of tighter gun control laws.
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« Reply #128 on: October 17, 2002, 12:21:48 PM »
Good point, but where does gun restriction stop? Only for law enforcment and military? In no time flat, corrupt soldiers,cops, and governments will be flooding the market with more illegal weapons. Besides, we lose more and more freedoms everyday, with rights violations popular as well. Im not comfortable with yet another.

How many crooks would commit a crime agaisnt a person directly if they knew damn near everyone could be armed?

As far a gun violence in the home amongst kids. Sounds like irresponsible parents, not gun laws.
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« Reply #129 on: October 18, 2002, 02:02:56 AM »
Gun laws are moronic. If someone wants to commit a crime against someone else, they\'ll do it. Without or without a gun. My god people, do you think there was no crime in earlier days, before guns was invented?
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« Reply #130 on: October 18, 2002, 02:11:13 AM »
Didn\'t they find out that the lady that said the sniper was in a white van wasn\'t tellin the truth?...
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« Reply #131 on: October 18, 2002, 03:12:47 AM »
yup..that person lied. Liek I said in another forum, this person will not stop untill they want to. It is next to impossible to catch them.

The sad part is..this will undoubtedly spawn copycat killers at some point.
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« Reply #132 on: October 18, 2002, 03:42:11 AM »
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It\'s something about our media, meaning the news media, and how they statistically exaggerate the number of violent crimes occuring in the real world by highlighting every one to the exclusion of all else.  Stats show that while gun violence has been decreasing, the number of stories about gun violence on television news has increased dramatically.  Shows like "Cops" inadvertantly villify minorities, and contribute to white america\'s fear of african americans and other minorities.  


I have said this on several occasions.  In the media you always exploit the worst of the worst.  Any time hurricanes brush by Tampa we always knew exactly where to go to show good flooding video.  Tampa wasn\'t flooded or anything.  Like a couple blocks were flooded, but we knew where to go.  Hell the people who lived in those houses new it was going to flood.  IT was no secret, but it enabled us to get good video.

America is no worse today than it was 100\'s of years ago.  It\'s just that there are 100\'s of news organizations fighting to push there news to the top.
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« Reply #133 on: October 18, 2002, 08:25:18 AM »
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Gun laws are moronic. If someone wants to commit a crime against someone else, they\'ll do it. Without or without a gun. My god people, do you think there was no crime in earlier days, before guns was invented?
But the crime is less likely to be fatal for the victim when the perpetrator is using a knife instead of a gun.
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« Reply #134 on: October 18, 2002, 08:28:11 AM »
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But the crime is less likely to be fatal for the victim when the perpetrator is using a knife instead of a gun.


His point is, anywhere in the world....if a criminal wants a gun, he\'ll get it. The laws keep honest law abiding people...honest. Whereas the criminals.....well.....
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