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Offline Coredweller
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« Reply #135 on: October 18, 2002, 09:39:47 AM »
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His point is, anywhere in the world....if a criminal wants a gun, he\'ll get it. The laws keep honest law abiding people...honest. Whereas the criminals.....well.....
People state this argument often, but it doesn\'t make sense for several reasons.  A large percentage of the gun homicides in the US are committed against a family member, spouse, friend or acquaitance.  These are committed by people who are often using a legally acquired firearm, and possibly are not even "criminals" per se.  Better gun laws would have an immediate impact to reduce those homocides.

Also, I don\'t think it\'s fair to say that improved gun laws to limit the manufacture, importation, and distribution of guns in the US would have no effect on illegaly acquired firearms.  As I mentioned in a previous post, these laws would reduce the total market for guns in the US, and thus the total number of guns in circulation.  (both legal and illegal)
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« Reply #136 on: October 18, 2002, 09:47:43 AM »
Well....one thing for sure....any country that tries to invade the US will be slaughtered, if not by the military....the civilian population. :)
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« Reply #137 on: October 18, 2002, 11:04:23 AM »
*wonders who would invade the US*

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« Reply #138 on: October 18, 2002, 01:58:16 PM »
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People state this argument often, but it doesn\'t make sense for several reasons.  A large percentage of the gun homicides in the US are committed against a family member, spouse, friend or acquaitance.  These are committed by people who are often using a legally acquired firearm, and possibly are not even "criminals" per se.  Better gun laws would have an immediate impact to reduce those homocides.

 



In those cases, it is almost always a crime of passion or emotion and not a robbery,rape, or other typical crime the average "criminal" commits. Not having a gun or not having easy access to one wont stop that from happening. If that is the case, we may as well get rid of knives,axes,ballpeen hammers, axes..hell, just cut off everyones hands :)
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« Reply #139 on: October 18, 2002, 04:02:18 PM »
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In those cases, it is almost always a crime of passion or emotion and not a robbery,rape, or other typical crime the average "criminal" commits. Not having a gun or not having easy access to one wont stop that from happening. If that is the case, we may as well get rid of knives,axes,ballpeen hammers, axes..hell, just cut off everyones hands :)
Knives, axes, and ballpeen hammers serve another legitimate purpose.  The only purpose of a handgun is to kill people.  Is it not clear that killing a person with a gun is much easier than killing a person with a hammer or a knife?  You can stand further away, you don\'t have to be concerned about the person fighting back, and a small person can effective kill a larger person without having to worry about overpowering them.  

Not everyone who kills a family member with a gun does so based on an instantaneous decision.  That\'s why we have a waiting period for handguns.  A friend of mine had a sister who was murdered by her husband.  The guy went to Wal-Mart and bought a hunting rifle (for which there is no waiting period), went home, waited for his wife to return home, and then shot her many times.   If a handgun is already in the house, then it\'s that much easier.  Lets not forget the accidental deaths that occur when guns are around as well.
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« Reply #140 on: October 18, 2002, 04:53:43 PM »
People do not typically murder their families or loved ones just to murder them like a "usual" killer does. Its usually a crime of passion or emotion for which they will still commit if a gun is not around. Of course guns make it easier, but for anyone that is intrested in killing, that wont stop them. This sniper character in the news now may not have been been doing this, but I bet the guy that you stated killed his wife would have still done so without a gun.



As far as accidents around the home with guns. With kids, it is usually poor parentiing. Almost all of my familiy members had guns in the house including my old man. At 12 he took me hunting. He taught me how to properly shot and most importantly respect a firearm. As many times as I had friends over, I never once pulled his guns out to show off as many of the kids do right b4 one of them ends up dead.

Now on to the parents that dont want to teach their kids about weapons in the house. Plain and simple, poor parenting. If they do not want their kids to learn abut them, they need to have said weapons locked up at ALL times.

As always, guns dont kill ppl, stupid and uneducated muthaluvas with guns kill people.(accidently anyway)
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« Reply #141 on: October 18, 2002, 08:18:31 PM »
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« Reply #142 on: October 19, 2002, 06:45:41 PM »
Well, there may be another sniper victim in Ashland, Va. 90 miles south of DC. No one\'s saying it\'s the Sniper.....but the M.O. seems to fit : random victim, shot from a distance, near the Interstate 95.
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« Reply #143 on: October 20, 2002, 02:39:00 AM »
Looks like another victim yes, we will find out soon enough. This latest vicitm has also survived the shooting.
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« Reply #144 on: October 20, 2002, 11:39:45 AM »
They say someone\'s been shot in Virginia they aint sure if it\'s the sniper, but the victim was shot once, it would explain the few quiet days.
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« Reply #145 on: October 20, 2002, 01:32:03 PM »
I actually surprised, up untill now, the only constant, other than the shootings themselves, has been the sniper taking the weekends off.
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« Reply #146 on: October 20, 2002, 05:09:12 PM »
This is starting to worry me now...:eek: The latest shooting is like 2 hours away from me in Virginia Beach. well he\'s been moving south ever since so he\'s probably gonna come near my area soon.:(

maybe its just me, but doesnt it seem ridiculous that he hasnt been caught yet? It feels like the police should try to have extra security around the DC and Virginia area and more Highway patrol over such areas. In my opinion an effective plan is to eliminate his escape routes or have more security around to potentially see the sniper or his vehicle so they can chase him. But who knows...i just hope they catch him soon.
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« Reply #147 on: October 20, 2002, 06:29:19 PM »
I dont know how you can think like that. It is near impossible to catch this guy unless he wants to be caught. He could give up now and no one would ever know who he was. UNless thousands and I mean thousand of security,police, and tropps are moved into the areas, it will be that much harder to catch this person.
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« Reply #148 on: October 20, 2002, 06:30:55 PM »
No, sometimes the Police are just stumped.  Look at The Green River Killer for example.  47+ Prostitutes murdered in the 80\'s, and no killer was brought to justice.  The same with The Zodiac Killer.  When you kill complete strangers, you have a good chance of getting away with it than if you kill someone you know like your ex girlfriend, wife, or someone else you know.
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« Reply #149 on: October 20, 2002, 06:33:03 PM »
Plus its not like this guy is targetting ppl at malls..or gas stations or any select group of victims. It all seems to be totally random.
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