Author Topic: "PS3 1000 times more powerful than PS2" (Read 19176 times)

Paul2 · « **Reply #105 on:** November 22, 2006, 04:36:24 PM »

Quote from: Titan

Haha. Gotcha. I would have done the same thing too, lol. But it is cool to compare what we were like back then and now. What are your predictions for PS4 Nostradamus?

Since you are also interested, let me get my crystal ball. j/k.

Actually this one is going to be a bit harder for me to speculate the ps4 CPU and GPU as now I was quite amaze that now we have multiple core CPUs, like Intel and AMD that introduces dual core CPUs I believe, and don\'t forget the upcoming quad core CPUs. Even the PS3 have this 8 SPEs Cell this, and 7 are activated while one is reserved. XBOX360 also have multi-core CPU too I believe.

So, I am not sure how many core CPU or SPE PS4 will have. But seeing how fast the speed of CPU is now, I guess maybe the PS4 will have around 15 to 20 GHz CPU speed?

Main RAM and VRAM is also a bit harder for me to guess now as the ps3 just launch recently. Maybe a year or two from now, it will be easier for to make a better guess by looking at the pattern of how far technology has gone. Maybe 6 to 8 Gbytes of total RAM...

now, here is this one that it\'s easier for me to guess. seeing the psone include a CD-ROM drive that also could playback CD-Audio, and ps2 added the DVD-ROM drive that could also playback DVD-Video. Now the PS3 included the next generation optical disc drive which is Blu Ray which also could playback Blu Ray Movies.

I am guessing the PlayStation 4 will include the next generation optical disc drive after Blu Ray. And that would be something similiar of HVD (holographic versatile disc). It\'s estimated that HVD can hold as much as 1 TBytes of data, and a 1x read speed of 1 Gbits per second. It wouldnt\' surprise me if Sony is going to include HVD-like optical disc for next generation after ps3. But I am leaning more toward that the HVD disc might hold more than 1 Tbytes, and possibly read speed faster than 1 Gbits per second for 1x. Maybe 2 Tbytes? 2 Gbits per second read speed per 1x? At 2x read speed, this will make it 4 Gbps. That\'s a lotta lotta data. Of course, not only can games be in this HVD-like format, so are next generation HD Video playback. Imagine playing back video 1080p in either lossless or uncompressed quality.

And of course, seeing how PS2 isn\'t quite popular with online gaming because it doesn\'t have internet connection built in, and it lack a HDD built in.

With PS3, sony is serious about internet and online gaming and the flexibility of HDD like how a computer is. They included both internet connection and HDD for both models. I guess PS4 will be the same, of course with much higher storage capacity HDD. And of course, I still think HDMI might be the normal for digital HD Video and audio too. Maybe they might go wireless HDMI connection...

again, all of this is just my speculation. And if they really wanted to include HVD-like format built in, then I think the PS4 won\'t come out until 2015 or around there? And maybe in 2010, Microsoft is going to launch their next generation XBOX....giving them a 5 years head start? headaches isn\'t it?

« **Reply #106 on:** November 22, 2006, 07:01:13 PM »

Quote from: Paul2

Since you are also interested, let me get my crystal ball. j/k.

Actually this one is going to be a bit harder for me to speculate the ps4 CPU and GPU as now I was quite amaze that now we have multiple core CPUs, like Intel and AMD that introduces dual core CPUs I believe, and don\'t forget the upcoming quad core CPUs. Even the PS3 have this 8 SPEs Cell this, and 7 are activated while one is reserved. XBOX360 also have multi-core CPU too I believe.

So, I am not sure how many core CPU or SPE PS4 will have. But seeing how fast the speed of CPU is now, I guess maybe the PS4 will have around 15 to 20 GHz CPU speed?

Main RAM and VRAM is also a bit harder for me to guess now as the ps3 just launch recently. Maybe a year or two from now, it will be easier for to make a better guess by looking at the pattern of how far technology has gone. Maybe 6 to 8 Gbytes of total RAM...

now, here is this one that it\'s easier for me to guess. seeing the psone include a CD-ROM drive that also could playback CD-Audio, and ps2 added the DVD-ROM drive that could also playback DVD-Video. Now the PS3 included the next generation optical disc drive which is Blu Ray which also could playback Blu Ray Movies.

I am guessing the PlayStation 4 will include the next generation optical disc drive after Blu Ray. And that would be something similiar of HVD (holographic versatile disc). It\'s estimated that HVD can hold as much as 1 TBytes of data, and a 1x read speed of 1 Gbits per second. It wouldnt\' surprise me if Sony is going to include HVD-like optical disc for next generation after ps3. But I am leaning more toward that the HVD disc might hold more than 1 Tbytes, and possibly read speed faster than 1 Gbits per second for 1x. Maybe 2 Tbytes? 2 Gbits per second read speed per 1x? At 2x read speed, this will make it 4 Gbps. That\'s a lotta lotta data. Of course, not only can games be in this HVD-like format, so are next generation HD Video playback. Imagine playing back video 1080p in either lossless or uncompressed quality.

And of course, seeing how PS2 isn\'t quite popular with online gaming because it doesn\'t have internet connection built in, and it lack a HDD built in.

With PS3, sony is serious about internet and online gaming and the flexibility of HDD like how a computer is. They included both internet connection and HDD for both models. I guess PS4 will be the same, of course with much higher storage capacity HDD. And of course, I still think HDMI might be the normal for digital HD Video and audio too. Maybe they might go wireless HDMI connection...

again, all of this is just my speculation. And if they really wanted to include HVD-like format built in, then I think the PS4 won\'t come out until 2015 or around there? And maybe in 2010, Microsoft is going to launch their next generation XBOX....giving them a 5 years head start? headaches isn\'t it?

nerd.

Titan · « **Reply #107 on:** November 22, 2006, 09:22:40 PM »

Quote from: Paul2

Since you are also interested, let me get my crystal ball. j/k.

Actually this one is going to be a bit harder for me to speculate the ps4 CPU and GPU as now I was quite amaze that now we have multiple core CPUs, like Intel and AMD that introduces dual core CPUs I believe, and don\'t forget the upcoming quad core CPUs. Even the PS3 have this 8 SPEs Cell this, and 7 are activated while one is reserved. XBOX360 also have multi-core CPU too I believe.

So, I am not sure how many core CPU or SPE PS4 will have. But seeing how fast the speed of CPU is now, I guess maybe the PS4 will have around 15 to 20 GHz CPU speed?

Main RAM and VRAM is also a bit harder for me to guess now as the ps3 just launch recently. Maybe a year or two from now, it will be easier for to make a better guess by looking at the pattern of how far technology has gone. Maybe 6 to 8 Gbytes of total RAM...

now, here is this one that it\'s easier for me to guess. seeing the psone include a CD-ROM drive that also could playback CD-Audio, and ps2 added the DVD-ROM drive that could also playback DVD-Video. Now the PS3 included the next generation optical disc drive which is Blu Ray which also could playback Blu Ray Movies.

I am guessing the PlayStation 4 will include the next generation optical disc drive after Blu Ray. And that would be something similiar of HVD (holographic versatile disc). It\'s estimated that HVD can hold as much as 1 TBytes of data, and a 1x read speed of 1 Gbits per second. It wouldnt\' surprise me if Sony is going to include HVD-like optical disc for next generation after ps3. But I am leaning more toward that the HVD disc might hold more than 1 Tbytes, and possibly read speed faster than 1 Gbits per second for 1x. Maybe 2 Tbytes? 2 Gbits per second read speed per 1x? At 2x read speed, this will make it 4 Gbps. That\'s a lotta lotta data. Of course, not only can games be in this HVD-like format, so are next generation HD Video playback. Imagine playing back video 1080p in either lossless or uncompressed quality.

And of course, seeing how PS2 isn\'t quite popular with online gaming because it doesn\'t have internet connection built in, and it lack a HDD built in.

With PS3, sony is serious about internet and online gaming and the flexibility of HDD like how a computer is. They included both internet connection and HDD for both models. I guess PS4 will be the same, of course with much higher storage capacity HDD. And of course, I still think HDMI might be the normal for digital HD Video and audio too. Maybe they might go wireless HDMI connection...

again, all of this is just my speculation. And if they really wanted to include HVD-like format built in, then I think the PS4 won\'t come out until 2015 or around there? And maybe in 2010, Microsoft is going to launch their next generation XBOX....giving them a 5 years head start? headaches isn\'t it?

I think I have to agree with luke man

I am gonna save and remember this and hold you to this when ps4 gets released :fighting:

Paul2 · « **Reply #108 on:** January 01, 2013, 12:51:27 PM »

*thread resurrected*

anyway, thinking about it, i realize how off i was on this one. i doubt the ps4 will be 15 to 20 GHz, but might be 3.2 GHz multi-core processors, from quad (4), to octo-core (8) processors.

I think ps4 might have at least 6 GBytes of total ram to as much as 12 Gbytes...

I highly doubt the ps3 will have hvd (holographic versatile disc) drive, but will use existing blu-ray drive as i doubt hvd will come out anytime soon. might not come out until at least 3 years from now at the earliest.

I think the blu-ray drive speed might be at 12x.

Of course, HDMI connection is a given.

i was very wrong that the next xbox will come out in 2010 as its already the first day and first month of 2013 and xbox 360 is still going strong and the next xbox hasn\'t come out yet.

« **Reply #109 on:** January 01, 2013, 07:42:13 PM »

ps4 will be equal to a midrange 2012 pc

sony is not about to lose their ASS again like they have with ps3

It will probably have and AMD APU possibly with another chip in there to work in some sort of heavily modified "crossfire" configuration. This will allow super low power usage when using the dvr features as well as browsing the web/psn whatever

CPU will be Quad or Octo core in the 3-3.5 ghz range
4 GB Ram
2 GB GDDR for graphics
Would like to see an ssd, but will probably have a laptop 2.5 hdd in the 500 gb to 1tb range

just a wild guess....

Paul2 · « **Reply #110 on:** January 01, 2013, 08:53:54 PM »

i think it isn\'t really much because of the ps3 cpu and gpu that make it really expensive back then when it first comes out. its mostly because of the blu ray drive built in that makes it expensive. $200 more expensive than xbox360 back then.

nowadays, blu-ray drive are a lot cheaper. so, i think its possible to get high end cpu and gpu for ps4 that should cost $300 to $400 range.

both the ps3 and xbox360 uses IBM 3.2 GHz processors, and this single core 3.2 GHz CPU have similar performance of a dual-core 3.2 GHz CPU of a computer, i think its Intel dual-core back then. that\'s what i read back then about a videogame cpu compare to computer cpu performance.

if that is the case, i wouldn\'t be surprise if say a ps4 quad-core 3.2 GHz cpu could have similar performance of an octo-core cpu of a computer, maybe intel octo-core or maybe amd octo-core.

if ps4 have 6 cores (or hex-core), it could have similar performance of 12 cores computer cpu. or if 8 core, it could have similar performance of 16 core computer cpu.

that\'s what i thought about the hdd, it might have 2.5" hdd like how the ps3 and xbox360 are. and its probably somewhere around 500 GBytes to 1 TByte.

GmanJoe · « **Reply #111 on:** January 01, 2013, 09:11:38 PM »

You sure it won\'t be a gazillion times more powerful?

Paul2 · « **Reply #112 on:** January 01, 2013, 09:18:43 PM »

gazillion times more powerful than what? are you saying the ps4 compare to ps3? or ps3 compare to ps2?

GmanJoe · « **Reply #113 on:** January 02, 2013, 01:20:16 AM »

The PS3! I think I read it was actually 1.34 gazillion times more powerful.

But it depends if the new flux capacitor is released this spring. This would give developers more time to create launch titles for Christmas 2013.

Paul2 · « **Reply #114 on:** January 02, 2013, 05:20:58 AM »

lol. are you referring to the topic thread title? that the ps3 is 150 GHz? then its probably is 1.34 gazillion times more powerful than ps2.

wait. are you talking about ps4 compare to ps3? sorry, i got confused. either way, i doubt it will be gazillion times more powerful. maybe ps4 is around 500 to 1,000 times more powerful than ps3.

GmanJoe · « **Reply #115 on:** January 02, 2013, 03:52:16 PM »

No! A GAZILLION Zillion!

« **Reply #116 on:** January 15, 2013, 05:28:50 AM »

I\'m a fucking wizard

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/PlayStation-Xbox-Radeon-APU-Orbis,15247.html

oh, and specs for both are VERY disappointing... weak ass gpu in both, but it was expected as they want to make as much profit as possible as early as possible. Compared to 7 year old consoles it looks strong... but that\'s not saying much.

clips · « **Reply #117 on:** January 15, 2013, 08:55:44 PM »

There\'s been talk of Sony possibly having tech that will cause the Ps4 not to play used games. I understand that it would be tied to your playstation ID and such, but that would just be annoying.

I understand that dev\'s don\'t get paid from used game sales, but i don\'t think it\'s an issue to the point to where you have to have your system not play used games.

If Sony implements this, it\'ll just seem more like corporate a$$holes that are out of touch with reality...at the end of the day these are still gaming consoles...there\'s no need to be blocking used games at all.

If Sony or any other Manufacturer is hurtung that bad to the point to where they feel they need to punish consumers that actually buy used games, then they need to drop out of the console business for good...forcing you to buy new games only and then those games only work on your ID?...absolute bullS**t...if they go thru with this...

GmanJoe · « **Reply #118 on:** January 16, 2013, 02:08:53 AM »

Xbox 720 is going to do the same thing. It\'s not just Sony but other game developers want this too. They don\'t get royalty from used game sales.

Titan · « **Reply #119 on:** January 17, 2013, 07:38:56 AM »

Quote from: clips

There\'s been talk of Sony possibly having tech that will cause the Ps4 not to play used games. I understand that it would be tied to your playstation ID and such, but that would just be annoying.

I understand that dev\'s don\'t get paid from used game sales, but i don\'t think it\'s an issue to the point to where you have to have your system not play used games.

If Sony implements this, it\'ll just seem more like corporate a$$holes that are out of touch with reality...at the end of the day these are still gaming consoles...there\'s no need to be blocking used games at all.

If Sony or any other Manufacturer is hurtung that bad to the point to where they feel they need to punish consumers that actually buy used games, then they need to drop out of the console business for good...forcing you to buy new games only and then those games only work on your ID?...absolute bullS**t...if they go thru with this...

I heard that rumor a while ago. Supposedly, now they aren\'t going to do it. If you think about it, it will actually cripple the game industry in my opinion. You have companies like Gamestop and independent gaming stores make their money mostly on used games. They risk going out of business and putting thousands of people out of work who then in turn can\'t buy their games. I think that\'s why DLC has become so important in recent years. If you buy a used game, what EA does is have you buy an online pass to access online content. They get some money from a used game that way. Plus, if a gamer really likes a game they bought used, they will buy the add on DLC. This happened with me and Mass Effect 2 as an example. I bought the game, loved it so much, I bought probably about 40 dollars of DLC from them. So they still made money.

Also, I discovered a lot of series because I bought them used. Dead Space is a good example. Well, its actually a bad example in my case but it makes my point. I bought the original as the Greatest Hits, the second used and preordered the third one. Say I did it the other way, it still created loyalty to the series with me that I will shell out the 60 dollars for the next installment.

Again, this is all my opinion and how I interpret what\'s going on

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