Is the U.S. beginning to fall?

The reason Rome fell is because of internal struggle. They were fighting wars amongst themselves and were unable to defend against outside forces.

This WILL happen in the US. I can guarantee that.

I doubt that happening either.

The biggest thing to bite western society will be the issue with the Have\'s and have not\'s.

I mean how many fat-ass politicians will play with other peoples lives?

If you live in a dump and eat out of a garbage would you give a **** about some NY skyscraper getting ****ed up? Probably not.

The world is a ****ing shity place...

The separation between the rich and poor is growing ... and the middle class is sinking back down towards the "poor" section.

People used to bitch about communism, ... democracy is the idiots veil of "comfort" ... say something that is not politically "Correct" and your ass will be in a ****ing slingshot...  :rolleyes:

There is only a couple solutions out of this hell:

1) Western civilization pulls its strings and interests out of the 2nd/3rd world. Let them destroy themselves.

2) Western world takes over the goat-****ers. Nuke em. Take their gold, oil, etc...

3) we do nothing, in that case we can all expect more terror, and shit happening to this planet.

The worst would be #3 ... that is where politicians wage stupid political battles... ****ing fat pigs.

The world does not need any more bleeding-hearts  idiots that cry for the fairness of the situation… why does the USA even admit some of these goat****ers into the country? I mean why???????

I think any western country should stop the goatfukers coming into their countries, and any goat****er/towel-head that does something wrong should be exported back to the goatfukers country of origin.

Go to therapy and stop being so made at yourself and the world.

In some sort of sick and disturbing way, I find that Toxical makes a very legitimate point underneath the vulgarity of his post.

Originally posted by luckee
I doubt that happening either.

Doubt all you want. The fact of the matter is that it WILL happen. The seeds have been in place for years.

about the only thing that will bring down the US is capitalism and the controlling of the majority of the wealth by the very few, causing the majority of people to live in poverty.

While it won\'t happen for a very long time, but in theory it will happen.

Well, technically, it has been happening for the last 200 years. Will it bring the country down to the point where we are ripe for the picking, no.

I think it will, none of us will be alive to see it, but if it continues the way it has (and there\'s no reason it\'ll stop) the US will topple.

I guess you and I were replying at the same time, but I was basically replying to gohan

[Living-In-Clip]

Hell, it\'s been failing for years and out current President only makes things worse . Focus a war on terrorism - fine. Start another with Iraq. We don\'t need two goin\' at once and we don\'t need any in general.
To hell with Bush.

Its going to happen sooner than you think. The US is an imperialist nation just like Greece, Rome, Britain, France, and Spain were. When you are an imperialist nation you have your hand in everything.

The US is concerning themselves with policy everywhere in the world and we have troops on EVERY major continent. If a full-scale war were to break out at home or abroad we would be easy pickings for the people laying in the wings.

In the US, their are people living in poverty worse than some third world nations. Do you think that people are going to stand for this forever? The US pumps BILLIONS of dollars into the pockets of their allies while people right down the street from the white house are starving. Do you think people are going to stand for this forever? There are groups just waiting and building their strength for the right moment.

When the power is in the hands of the few, the many have no choice but to fight.

I\'m not saying that there will be a revolution tomorrow or even next year. I just don\'t want ANYONE to think that there will not be a shift in power in this country WITHIN most of our or our children\'s life times.

Good post Gohan, I gree with you.

Originally posted by Gohan
Its going to happen sooner than you think. The US is an imperialist nation just like Greece, Rome, Britain, France, and Spain were. When you are an imperialist nation you have your hand in everything.

The US is concerning themselves with policy everywhere in the world and we have troops on EVERY major continent. If a full-scale war were to break out at home or abroad we would be easy pickings for the people laying in the wings.

In the US, their are people living in poverty worse than some third world nations. Do you think that people are going to stand for this forever? The US pumps BILLIONS of dollars into the pockets of their allies while people right down the street from the white house are starving. Do you think people are going to stand for this forever? There are groups just waiting and building their strength for the right moment.

When the power is in the hands of the few, the many have no choice but to fight.

I\'m not saying that there will be a revolution tomorrow or even next year. I just don\'t want ANYONE to think that there will not be a shift in power in this country WITHIN most of our or our children\'s life times.

I agree also, and to top it off the USA selects the "country/Region" it wants to get involved with, if there is oil or strong lobby in congress then the USA will act, if a couple hundred thousand die in some African civil war/genocide, so be it.

I mean there is no oil/or political pressure to save hundreds of thousands of “poor” people right?

Selective involvement does not work… why does the USA want the UN to do some stupid-ass resolution or what not regarding Iraq? They shouldn\'t wait...

When the UN does a resolution about some “Other” country and the USA does not like it because the lobby is too strong in congress the bill is vetoed or totaly ignored... So how can the UN be credible or anything more than a mouthpiece to a select few who have the money and political power to get things done?

The UN is a joke.

[Titan]

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Hell, it\'s been failing for years and out current President only makes things worse . Focus a war on terrorism - fine. Start another with Iraq. We don\'t need two goin\' at once and we don\'t need any in general.
To hell with Bush.

The war against terror isn\'t a big war. We are fighting Al Quada and they are pretty much wiped up. The war in Operation Desert Storm lasted only a couple months. It started and ended in like 1990 or 1991, who needs dates, my point is the same. We don\'t even have 5% of our forces in the middle east right now. Besides, we have Britain on our side, hell, they are in the gulf right now. If we used all our military might in the middle east or this war against terror, it will be over in a matter of months. I think America will never go down.