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« on: November 16, 2002, 12:18:41 PM »
Well it\'s that time again. Another month, another PPV. Before I begin in this thread, I\'d like to address something that somewhat, bothered me. Apparently Cerberus doesn\'t think wrestling is considered a "sport."

Cerberus, for your information, wrestling happens to be one of the toughest things to train for, if not, thee hardest thing to train for. Amateur wrestling is a sport my friend. Not only does it require a strong frame, but balance, agility, self awareness, and a good understanding of yourself. What distinguishes amateur wrestling from every other sport, is that you are responsible for your success. You are responsible for the grief of your loss, or the glamour of your success.

Amateur wrestling isn\'t for everyone. If you can\'t be grown up enough to set aside your immaturity, then the sport isn\'t for you. If you can\'t handle certain tie ups, or people sweating all over you, or you tasting your own blood (or someone elses for that manner) this sport isn\'t for you.

The sport is much more viggerous than football, too. The training involved to be an elite wrestling astronomical. You\'d be sick to your stomach on some of the things that we do to get ourselves to the condition we need to be in, as well as strength training. Wrestling "live" in practice is one of the most tiring things we do.

Even though it\'s only yourself and your opponent on the mat, there is a team thing involved within the sport. That\'s in practice. Each person on the team pushes people far beyond the limits of what their pain limit is, their mental and emotional limit is to become the absolute best. Each team player takes what he has learned and uses it out on the mat.

So the next time you say wrestling isn\'t a real sport, think twice my friend for you don\'t know your left from your right. Just because the professional side of it isn\'t as glamerous as others doesn\'t exclude it as being a real sport.

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I\'m really disappointed on how the WWE Title between Brock Lesnar and Big Show has developed. I was really looking foward to Brock revealing his Shooting Star Press to the Big Show, or possibly a F-5, but that all is dimished now. Thanks to the "big clump" Lesnar has a cracked rip plus some bruised ones. Now after Smackdown, Big Show is not injured. I have a feeling the match is going to be very slow, disappointing, and short. Right now, lots of rumors are going around, Lesnar is going to loose his title to Big Show and take 6-8 weeks off to nurse his injury. Instead of showcasing Brock\'s incredible strength, now they are going to wind up giving someone who doesn\'t even deserve a main event spot the title.

The Elimination Chamber is looking very solid. The structure itself looks very... interesting. It\'s going to be interesting how the superstars are going to work the match. If HHH retains his title, I\'m through with watching RAW. I hope Scott Steiner interupts that match and lets someone else have the title. I\'m in favor for HBK or Booker T winning the title.


Anybody else willing to break down their thoughts on events of this PPV, feel free.
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« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2002, 12:49:59 PM »
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Well it\'s that time again. Another month, another PPV. Before I begin in this thread, I\'d like to address something that somewhat, bothered me. Apparently Cerberus doesn\'t think wrestling is considered a "sport."

Cerberus, for your information, wrestling happens to be one of the toughest things to train for, if not, thee hardest thing to train for. Amateur wrestling is a sport my friend. Not only does it require a strong frame, but balance, agility, self awareness, and a good understanding of yourself. What distinguishes amateur wrestling from every other sport, is that you are responsible for your success. You are responsible for the grief of your loss, or the glamour of your success.

Amateur wrestling isn\'t for everyone. If you can\'t be grown up enough to set aside your immaturity, then the sport isn\'t for you. If you can\'t handle certain tie ups, or people sweating all over you, or you tasting your own blood (or someone elses for that manner) this sport isn\'t for you.

The sport is much more viggerous than football, too. The training involved to be an elite wrestling astronomical. You\'d be sick to your stomach on some of the things that we do to get ourselves to the condition we need to be in, as well as strength training. Wrestling "live" in practice is one of the most tiring things we do.

Even though it\'s only yourself and your opponent on the mat, there is a team thing involved within the sport. That\'s in practice. Each person on the team pushes people far beyond the limits of what their pain limit is, their mental and emotional limit is to become the absolute best. Each team player takes what he has learned and uses it out on the mat.

So the next time you say wrestling isn\'t a real sport, think twice my friend for you don\'t know your left from your right. Just because the professional side of it isn\'t as glamerous as others doesn\'t exclude it as being a real sport.
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It isnt a sport- its all fake, im sure it cant be that hard to punch, jump and kick. I seriously, believe it is not a sport, its just a bunch of half-naked men in tight clothing jumping on eachother.  Where is the talent in that? Hey racer, ever thought of taking up pro wrestling? :D

BTW: why do they always stomp their feet when they punch?

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« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2002, 12:55:13 PM »
^ I\'m with this guy :D Especially with the Racer part :)
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« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2002, 12:56:58 PM »
here I go again!!!!!!!!! would you tell Daren Drozdov it is fake......he is in a wheelchair.......or owen hart when you die  .........maybe you wont see him!  how can you call it fake......Scripted yes....Fake no...........


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« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2002, 12:58:31 PM »
Certain things are fake. If you repeatedly punch someone in the nose, his face would be bashed in. That could be fake. When they throw people on the ground and jump, that\'s not too fake.
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« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2002, 01:31:49 PM »
Chair shots to the head are certainly not fake. Not to mention faces getting split open on steel cages.

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« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2002, 01:34:18 PM »
You are classifying "wrestling" in general in the same category as amateur wrestling. Amateur and professional wrestling are 2 entirely different things.

Professional wrestling indeed is scripted, but in no way is it totaly fake. You think the bumps, and injuries, the risks, the blood aren\'t real?

I\'d love for you to walk away from a F-5 without a stiff back, or go through a table, or jumping from top rope onto the mat and walk away without pain.

Professional wrestling is entertainment, true, but it is very "real" entertainment.

Don\'t classify amateur wrestling with professional wrestling, because it is 2 entirely different things.
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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2002, 03:58:52 PM »
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here I go again!!!!!!!!! would you tell Daren Drozdov it is fake......he is in a wheelchair.......or owen hart when you die  .........maybe you wont see him!  how can you call it fake......Scripted yes....Fake no...........


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I can\'t believe you said Owen Hart,didn\'t he die cause he didn\'t hook up his saftey harness? mmmm and who the hell is Drozdov?

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« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2002, 04:07:35 PM »
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I can\'t believe you said Owen Hart,didn\'t he die cause he didn\'t hook up his saftey harness? mmmm and who the hell is Drozdov?
By the way jm love your pic.


ok owen was a mess up......Drozdov WWE name is/was Puke...he played football and puked at the line of scrimmage and the name went with him to the WWE



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« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2002, 05:12:23 PM »
It annoys me when people call it fake.  Athletics are my specialty, I try to stay in absolute perfect physical condition, and those wrestlers put me to shame.  How many 300lb football players can do a back flip, or hell even a kip up?  How many people can fly off a 20\' ladder through a table, and be ready to do it again the next night?  How many people can pull of the moves that the lucha libre\'s can do?

I really think all these wrestling bashers do so because of lack of familiarity with the product.  it\'s one thing to argue that it\'s boring, or stupid, but to question the ability these men have is just assenine

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« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2002, 08:49:26 PM »
isnt raws 500th episode coming up here in the next 2 weeks or so?  I hope the merge the shows on that episode....I dont think vince ca admit that it failed.......raws ratings have plummeted to a 3.1 (last time it was that low was 1997) while Smackdowns have been going up or constant.....something needs to be done to stop the bleeding and the only way that I see anything hapening is get better stars on raw or merge them back.


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« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2002, 08:59:23 PM »
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Chair shots to the head are certainly not fake. Not to mention faces getting split open on steel cages.


Im not getting into the whole sport or not thing since I believe it to be one. I do have to address the above comment though.


Those are not a true steel folding chair you or I are so familiar with. Faces getting busted open are usually due to the wrestlers cutting themselves slightly the day b4. SO naturally when that area is aggriivated, it begins to bleed again.
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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2002, 08:54:08 AM »
Professional wrestling is entertainment, not a sport. There is no competition. The entertainment is real. The injuries are real, and the risk is real. These people put their lives on the line into entertaining you the fans.

Amateur wrestling is a sport, totaly different than professional wrestling.

RAW\'s 500th episode has to go against Monday Night football\'s 500th episode, also. Same day. That\'s going to be a bloody fight.

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« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2002, 09:48:35 AM »
actually no, I dont think it is due to when raw was on USA they always pre-empted raw with *cough* Tennis*Cough* so RAws is I think 2 weeks after I beleive.



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« Reply #14 on: November 17, 2002, 03:18:31 PM »
to save  new thread can i post the results here?????




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