Intelligent discussion for the day...

I understand, I just wanted to throw out there that they are often as petty/trivial as the men who they despise.

^^ Usually more petty.

It all comes down to, do you think someone has the right to kill another person because they just don\'t want the hassle. If my girlfriend ever aborted one of my kids she\'d be out on her murdering ass.

[Titan]

It isnt always like that. Rape comes to mind. Also, if people are supposed to be responsible for their actions, whats the point of lawyers 9 times out of 10? If you were being sued for something you caused, I bet you would still have a lawyer on your side to lessen or even bet what you were accused of correct?

We all have options to the choices we make in life, it isnt always a bad thing to make a less than popular choice.

Rape is the only reason i think abortion should be allowed, but taxpayers shouldn\'t pay (around here, taxpayers pay).

Originally posted by Titan


Rape is the only reason i think abortion should be allowed, but taxpayers shouldn\'t pay (around here, taxpayers pay).

How is it a reason?

Originally posted by Clowd


How is it a reason?

So if your daughter, mother, sister, wife got raped, you would keep the child?

Nevermind, I forgot yer a god boy.

[SirMystiq]

i dont like it. its just like murder, but legal, if its a rape case or something then maybe, but the woman knew what she was doing its her fault and she shoulnt kill the baby cuz of her mistake.

[Titan]

Originally posted by Clowd


How is it a reason?

If your girlfriend was raped and became pregnant, you would tell her to keep it? What if it would ruin her life, youd still make her keep it? Please :rolleyes:

Reflecting off of what SirMystiq mentioned, could someone explain to me the difference between abortion and murder?  I know the individual definitions, but I\'m interested in seeing what ways some of you consider them to be different terms.

It\'s not different, its murder what ever the reason, as I mentioned before in extreme circumstances it\'s better for the child but when some dirty slag has spread um for half the street then I think she should have to live with it. If you don\'t want a baby close your legs, simple as.

Originally posted by luckee


So if your daughter, mother, sister, wife got raped, you would keep the child?

Yes I believe in the sanctity of life

Ever thought that one of your best friends could have been a child from a rape?

What if you were that child that came from a rape?

I really dont see what that has to do with my thoughts on it. If I was and someone believed in abortion, so be it. I\'ll tell you one thing though, I certainly wouldnt want to have to deal with the thoughts and feelings knowing I am a child of a violent crime.

That\'s completely different Clowd.  What you are saying is no different from saying "Don\'t use condoms.  What if you came from your parents not taking the right protective measures?"  It\'s no different.  

And the difference between murder and abortion?  Murder is to kill a living, breathing, animal.  To take something that is living, and rip it\'s life away from it without its consent.  Abortion is preventing a collection of cells from reaching the point of being a living animal in the first place.

[Titan]

shockwaves, majority of the time, the abortion takes place when the baby is taking human form (4 months into it). I have no problem with contraceptives (which are against Catholocism) but don\'t like abortion, unless in the case of rape. But even after an abortion, the mother can regret and screw her up, like she murdered someone.

Originally posted by Titan
shockwaves, majority of the time, the abortion takes place when the baby is taking human form (4 months into it). I have no problem with contraceptives (which are against Catholocism) but don\'t like abortion, unless in the case of rape. But even after an abortion, the mother can regret and screw her up, like she murdered someone.

Because she has...

Yes, the mother can have regret, and that can do bad things to her.  But does that happen most of the time?  Not even close.  In fact, I\'d bet that she would have far less regret than if she gave the baby up, and far less than if she kept it, since if you are getting an abortion in the first place, there are probably reasons why you can\'t have a child at that point in your life.

And four months?  Give me a break.  88% of abortions are done within the first three months, and that percentage is getting higher and higher.

Besides, I never said that people should have unlimited rights to abortions.  Of course there should be restrictions...I believe it should be restricted to the first trimester.  Of course an abortion when the woman is 8 months pregnant or something is wrong.

On another note, there are some abortions that are performed in order to save the mother\'s life, in situations where she would be sure to die during child birth.  What do you think about those?

By the way, an interesting stat for those of you throwing religion in...Catholics are 1% more likely to get an abortion than the average of the general population.  Hmm...