Hello

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?

Author Topic: The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made!  (Read 2647 times)

Offline GigaShadow
  • Information Minister
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5610
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • http://
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #30 on: December 23, 2002, 02:34:59 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by CHIZZY
I think LOTR is 1000+ pages, Maybe not including the appendices.

I\'m reading the Silmarillion now, it\'s sort of the Bible of middle earth. It tells how the world was created, and the races of elves & men and their purpose. The problem is, it reads like the bible and every other word is a name of a person or place that looks very similar to the previous name...  kinda tiring.


It is a very hard read, though worth it.  I would really like to see this made into a movie or a series of movies.
\"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.\"  - Churchill
[/i]
[/size]One Big Ass Mistake America

Global Warming ROCKS!!!![/b]

Offline videoholic

  • Silly little freak
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 18034
  • Karma: +10/-0
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #31 on: December 27, 2002, 07:18:50 PM »
None of you were bothered by the stupid jokes from the dwarf?  During the fight the whole counting thing with the elf was stupid.  The short jokes were tiring.  

This really took a little out of it for me.  But on a scale of 1-100 I still give the movie 99.5....

Great movie and it leaves you wanting more.  Can\'t say that about many other 3 hour movies.
I wear a necklace now because I like to know when I\'m upside down.
 kopking: \"i really think that i how that guy os on he weekend\"
TheOmen speaking of women: \"they\'re good at what they do, for what they are.\"
Swifdi:

Offline GigaShadow
  • Information Minister
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5610
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • http://
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #32 on: December 27, 2002, 08:15:23 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Videoholic
None of you were bothered by the stupid jokes from the dwarf?  During the fight the whole counting thing with the elf was stupid.  The short jokes were tiring.  

This really took a little out of it for me.  But on a scale of 1-100 I still give the movie 99.5....

Great movie and it leaves you wanting more.  Can\'t say that about many other 3 hour movies.


I am surprised you even mentioned it since it only counted half a point ;)
\"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.\"  - Churchill
[/i]
[/size]One Big Ass Mistake America

Global Warming ROCKS!!!![/b]

Offline Coredweller
  • The War on Error
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5654
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • http://
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #33 on: December 27, 2002, 10:02:28 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Videoholic
None of you were bothered by the stupid jokes from the dwarf?  During the fight the whole counting thing with the elf was stupid.  The short jokes were tiring.  
I\'m guessing you haven\'t read the novel.  The counting thing is directly out of the novel, and it\'s one of the coolest things in there.  Gimli and Legolas started the story in Fellowship distrusting each other, and then after fighting side by side, a little friendship develops.  It\'s one of the more interesting sub plots of the novels.  Eventually by the time of the Helm\'s Deep battle, they are able to joke with each other about how many kills they each have.  As I recall, Legolas is way ahead, and then he runs out of arrows, so Gimli slowly starts to pull closer.  

I enjoyed the little humorous parts they threw in.
ZmÒëĎCęЯ
Let the Eagle Soar!
\"The American Dream: You have to be asleep to believe it.\"  - George Carlin

Offline videoholic

  • Silly little freak
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 18034
  • Karma: +10/-0
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #34 on: December 28, 2002, 04:12:15 AM »
OK, actually the counting thing didn\'t bother me, but the short jokes got old.

Like when they are up on the wall and he can\'t see anything over it when 4 feet to his right was a gap where he could have scene just fine.
I wear a necklace now because I like to know when I\'m upside down.
 kopking: \"i really think that i how that guy os on he weekend\"
TheOmen speaking of women: \"they\'re good at what they do, for what they are.\"
Swifdi:

Offline CHIZZY

  • Icky:1994-2005
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5527
  • Karma: +10/-0
  • PSN ID: chizzbot
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #35 on: December 28, 2002, 06:59:39 AM »
goddammit, I gotta stop reading this internet poisoning and go see this fucking movie. You\'ll ruin it for me, I tells ya!
Dinosaurs were killed in the flood. -#RaCeR#
Halle Berry just loves to give me the \"Dutch Oven\". That\'s why I stopped going down on her. It pisses me off so much that I just bang her til she faints. Bitch.-GmanJoe
i just try to make my sefhappy , by beng i company of fri

Offline IronFist
  • .....
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2595
  • Karma: +10/-0
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #36 on: December 28, 2002, 01:23:07 PM »
Quote
Originally posted by Videoholic
Like when they are up on the wall and he can\'t see anything over it when 4 feet to his right was a gap where he could have scene just fine.

IMO that was the funniest part in the whole movie.  That was the loudest I\'ve laughed in a long time.  I agree that the short jokes were overdone, but that short joke was by far the funniest.  And the other funny parts ([sp]like when the dwarf described what the girl dwarfs looked like, or when the gollum yelled "Fat, stupid hobbit" at the hobbit[/sp]), more than made up for the overdone short jokes.

There was one thing that I really hated in the movie though -- the part where [sp]Legolas slid down the stairs on the shield shooting arrows at the same time.[/sp]

Ugh, it was horrible.  It was just so very stupid.  Because of that part, I have to give this movie only a 99.5/100 also. :)
[color=88bbbb]\"How glorious is the future... there never were men who had so great reason to rejoice as we, since the world began.\"[/color]

Offline Darth Joyda
  • Replicant Dreamer
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4534
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • http://
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #37 on: December 29, 2002, 03:16:18 PM »
[ Spoilers! ]
[sp]
The Two Towers was, simply, amazing. I have been studying the reviews and responces serious Tolkien-purists have given, and it annoys me to see that their views are filled with negativity. They seemingly can not enjoy the movies due to the changes Peter Jackson has made. Crucial, much-needed changes to be exact. Crucial when it comes to the roots of story-telling on silver-screen.

Imagine a verbally perfect, scene-to-scene Lord of the Rings -movie. It would easily take a dozen hours of screen-time per book. A Television Mini-serie could have given Peter the ability to include every scene, but with cost of visual quality, realism ( in terms of weaponry and costumes ), actors and music. One can not create a visually mesmerizing scene such as the Battle of Helm\'s Deep with a mini-serie budget. PJ\'s decision to make a three-movie trilogy was a good one, in my humble opinion, and I am ready to accept every change he has in mind for the Return of the King.

For example, the changes in Faramir\'s character and storyline disturbed many purists and long-time fans. In their ignorancy they didn\'t take Faramir\'s scenes from audience\'s point-of-view. To a Tolkien-virgin audience, suspence had to be built on Frodo\'s and Sam\'s story as well - for it would have been silly to experience two huge climaxes - Helm\'s Deep and the Drowning of Isengard - if they had been intercut by unexciting, peaceful scenery. One thing bothered me though, and it was Frodo\'s encounter with the Nazgul. Simply put, if the Nazgul now knows Frodo is carrying the One Ring, why won\'t Sauron fix his energy into searching for the Ringbearer? In the book, Sauron thought the Ring had been taken to Gondor, and \'thus unleashed his massive armies. He was rather desperate. I believe PJ has written a solution to this dilemma - but until the Return of the King, it will keep bothering me.

The actors were as amazing as they had been all the time. Yet I think Viggo\'s Aragorn grew into epic proportions, while John Rhys-Davies\' Gimli finally got real, rather comical but justified, depth. Orlando\'s Legolas was as good as ever, while Elijah\'s Frodo and Sean Astin\'s Samwise were mind-bogglingly accurate. Ian McKellen\'s Gandalf was beyond describtion. From the new cast I should point out Miranda Otto\'s Eowyn - a wonderful performance, Brad Dourif\'s Grima Wormtongue - just as I always envisioned him - and Bernard Hill\'s Theoden the King - played out as noble and experienced, wise yet quick-minded - just as he should be. Andy Serkis deserves an Oscar, in my humble opinion - but more of Gollum later.

Howard Shore\'s soundtrack was massive - epic - beautiful. After seeing the midnight-premiere of the Two Towers, I instantly decided to buy the soundtrack as a christmas-present - and so I did. I love it to bits - I adore every second of it. It swept the floor with Fellowship\'s already great soundtrack, and made itself into my top 5 most loved movie-music. I remember doubting Shore\'s capabilities about a year and a half ago, but after these two great soundtracks, I praise Jackson for selecting him. A perfect choice.

The Two Towers was mesmerizing, creating cinematic orgasms one after another. Forth Eorlingas - the last desperate charge out of Helm\'s Deep - was perhaps the most epic scene I have ever seen. My heart pounded like a rabbit on speed. But, in the end, it is the characters this movie is based upon. No matter how visually compelling, the small details decide whether the movie is worth a re-watch. And Two Towers certainly is. I already praised the actors I found worthy of praising with the exception of one - Andy Serkis\' performance as the digitally created Gollum.

Holy God of Film-making I can hardly put my feelings into words when it comes to the brilliance of Gollum. He was the only character the film truly improved. To give you the record, I have read Lord of the Rings 7 times. And every time Gollum has been a controversial character. While I never loathed him, I never cared for him either. I always visioned him as a slimy, dark-skinned, yellow-eyed, evil-looking creature. The film gave him blue eyes and cute, light out-look. I love the new twist of Gollum - for he truly struck my emotions. I nearly cried for him. I wanted his Smeagol side to win - even as I know that Smeagol stands no chance against the power of the Ring. Given that Gollum could\'ve been trashed easily, making him the greatest computer-generated character of all time is not a small achievement. Applauses to Andy and Weta Digital. They created a Gollum we can easily approach.
[/sp]
To give you my conclusional score, I give it 9.5/10. While it was wonderful, it is still just one part out of three. I will re-score the whole saga once it is completed. Hopefully you had the energy to read this reply through ;)


[sp tags] supplyed by me ooseven.. welcome back old buddy :D
« Last Edit: December 30, 2002, 04:28:26 AM by ooseven »
[FONT=\"Impact\"][SIZE=\"4\"][COLOR=\"SlateGray\"]\"If only you could see what I have seen with your eyes\"[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

Offline CHIZZY

  • Icky:1994-2005
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5527
  • Karma: +10/-0
  • PSN ID: chizzbot
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #38 on: December 29, 2002, 06:42:53 PM »
I finally saw it 15 minutes ago.


Wow. :eek:
Dinosaurs were killed in the flood. -#RaCeR#
Halle Berry just loves to give me the \"Dutch Oven\". That\'s why I stopped going down on her. It pisses me off so much that I just bang her til she faints. Bitch.-GmanJoe
i just try to make my sefhappy , by beng i company of fri

Offline videoholic

  • Silly little freak
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 18034
  • Karma: +10/-0
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #39 on: December 29, 2002, 06:51:22 PM »
Yeah.  The ending really leaves you wanting more.  Not many 3 hour movies make you want more.
I wear a necklace now because I like to know when I\'m upside down.
 kopking: \"i really think that i how that guy os on he weekend\"
TheOmen speaking of women: \"they\'re good at what they do, for what they are.\"
Swifdi:

Offline GigaShadow
  • Information Minister
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 5610
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • http://
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2002, 07:00:13 AM »
I think the major reason for the success of this trilogy is going to be due to the fact that is was all filmed at once.  The same can\'t be said for the Star Wars series (Ep IV-VI were good) Episodes I-III.  Lucas is no Tolkien and this is why LOTR is a deeper experience IMHO.  While watching Attack of the Clones I found myself looking at my watch every now and then, but not once with The Two Towers - which was longer.  As Video said there definitely aren\'t many 3 hour movies that leave you wanting more.
\"The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.\"  - Churchill
[/i]
[/size]One Big Ass Mistake America

Global Warming ROCKS!!!![/b]

Offline GmanJoe

  • Moderator
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 12133
  • Karma: +10/-0
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2002, 07:46:23 AM »
Gollum will be nominated for Best Actor. Seriously. The emotions he conveyed was perfect. His words were very emotional and felt real. I never liked Gollum when I read the book....but now I see what Tolkien and Bilbo saw.....pity. The little beast was pitiful. And truly deserved pity, as Gandalf said.
\"Gee,  I dunno.  If I was a chick, I\'d probably want a kiss (or more) from Durst, too.\"--SineSwiper 9/23/03 (from another forum)
Originally posted by Seed_Of_Evil I must admit that the last pic of her ass will be used in my next masturbation. She\'s hot as hell, one of my

Offline Darth Joyda
  • Replicant Dreamer
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4534
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • http://
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2002, 08:26:50 AM »
Thanks, Ooseven :)
[FONT=\"Impact\"][SIZE=\"4\"][COLOR=\"SlateGray\"]\"If only you could see what I have seen with your eyes\"[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]

Offline Bozco
  • Tenchu Fanboy
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 7043
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • http://
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2002, 08:43:26 AM »
I can\'t believe how into Gollum people were.  Seems like the whole "nerd" population wants this movie so bad that they didn\'t see the cheesy jokes they used with him.

Offline Samwise
  • Moderator
  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 12129
  • Karma: +10/-0
    • http://151.200.3.8/~vze29k6v/you.html
The Two Towers : the Greatest movie ever made! Possible spoilers.
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2002, 08:48:32 AM »
What cheesy jokes? I think the (few) jokes that involved Gollum were pretty well-done.
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAPETIME!
(thanks Chizzy!)

 

SMF spam blocked by CleanTalk