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« Reply #15 on: January 29, 2003, 04:11:34 PM »
Surprisingly, I\'m with Ace on this one.  You can not restrict the rights of people to arm themselves.  As soon as you do, you are in a situation where you have to rely on someone else to protect you.  That is never a great place to be.
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« Reply #16 on: January 29, 2003, 04:54:16 PM »
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I\'ve lived 35 years on this planet without a gun, and nothing I\'ve seen in my life makes me think I need to get one now.  I\'ve been in some fights in my time, and I can tell you that if guns had been present in some of those situations, the outcome would have been MUCH WORSE than it was.

With all the half wit redneck cracker dumba$$ sh1t-for-brains know-nothing idiots in this country, I would feel much LESS safe if everyone had a gun.  Guns are a public health crisis that we need to address.  Your point about making a VOLUNTARY pledge regarding use of knives and cars is riciculous.  Knives and Cars serve a legitimate purpose.  Guns serve only one purpose:  to kill people.

To all the people who "love guns:" :nut:  Think about your own safety and the safety of your family.  Try loving a human being instead.


Blow it out your ass, douchebag. ;) With all the gangsta-ass baboon dumba$$ sh!t for brains out there who have way more illegal weapons, and 1/4 of the morals than me, I wanna be prepared to blow them a new windpipe when they invade my home.

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« Reply #17 on: January 29, 2003, 04:59:23 PM »
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shurely your well enough protected in the US.

what with

the Might of the US armed forces
The National gaurd
Police
FBI
SWAT
etc..etc..

All armed to the back teeth.

then whats the need for private guns ?


About 7-8 years ago, three people robbed a bank, armed with assualt rifles and bullet proof vests. The military had no authority there at the time (never did, actually) and the police weren\'t armed enough to take them down. The shooting spree lasted for a good 2 hours, IIRC.

Now if CHIZZY was around...;)

Alos, if I have my facts straight, the 2nd amen. is there to protect us (the people) from an opressive government (like teh British!!!1!).
« Last Edit: January 29, 2003, 05:02:36 PM by The Stapler »

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« Reply #18 on: January 29, 2003, 05:03:40 PM »
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About 7-8 years ago, three people robbed a bank, armed with assualt rifles and bullet proof vests. The military had no authority there at the time (never did, actually) and the police weren\'t armed enough to take them down. The shooting spree lasted for a good 2 hours, IIRC.

Now if CHIZZY was around...;)


Toast and soldiers, muthaf*kka....TOAST AND SOLDIERS!

I only pack a blade these days.. but if someone pulled that shit near me...I\'d slice e\'m... no joke.
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« Reply #19 on: January 29, 2003, 05:14:39 PM »
If you\'re talking about the North Hollywood bank robbery, it was 2 guys, not 3.  Unless you\'re thinking of the movie "Heat," in which case it was 3 guys.  :)

BTW we were talking about home invasions, not bank invasions.  In California only peace officers are allowed to carry guns around in public, so you wouldn\'t have yours if you were in a bank that was being robbed.
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« Reply #20 on: January 29, 2003, 05:14:40 PM »
Fizuck.  Double post  :(
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« Reply #21 on: January 29, 2003, 05:21:01 PM »
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If you\'re talking about the North Hollywood bank robbery, it was 2 guys, not 3.  Unless you\'re thinking of the movie "Heat," in which case it was 3 guys.  :)
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I really had no idea :) It could have been 10 guys for all I know :)

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BTW we were talking about home invasions, not bank invasions.  In California only peace officers are allowed to carry guns around in public, so you wouldn\'t have yours if you were in a bank that was being robbed.


Also, I wasn\'t sure of the gun laws in California. I don\'t know if they could have carried guns or not. But it still shows that the police were not armed well enough to stop them.

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« Reply #22 on: January 29, 2003, 09:15:40 PM »
oddly enough, no one seens to like guns the way that I do...

I like/own \'em mainly because its part of me.  I get a sense of rush firing them(I guess you don\'t know what I\'m talkin\' about until you fire a .45 ACP, or anything bigger for that matter).

For the sake of sharing someone tired to come through my 3rd floor window a week ago.  my mom cought him right when he got half of my window open.  Then she yelled "WTF are you doing at my window?! Ken grab your gun! someone try to come in!"
I don\'t care how many kinds of armed services we have here in the US.  I simple do not feel safe without my own fire arms at my arm\'s reach.

We called the cops afterwards, but because he "ran" out the window the min. my mom start yelling she couldn\'t make out her face or any of his features at all. So the cop came and we did some talking and that\'s about the end of the story.

Yeah what would some of you do if he were to come in even with my mom yelling? I\'m not a big guy (5\'8") so fighting him head to head will likely result in me and my mom getting hurt.  If he comes in and try to do any harm to me or my mom I\'ll just have to blow his head off with my .45 and that\'s that.

I know most of you are anti guns...but I just wanna share this true story of mine.  I guess life here in NYC is getting worse and worse....
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« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2003, 05:43:10 AM »
I love guns, too... I don\'t have a pistol permit (stupid NY laws...) but I own several rifles. There is nothing quite like cutting down trees with an AR-15 or AK-47. Instant gratification & stress release. Pumpkins and watermelons are fun, too. Or the skill involved in shooting a 1" group at 300 yards with a scoped .308 Rem.

I\'ve never fired full auto, but I will when I go to Vegass later this year. The closest I cam was when the sear on my SKS started to wear, and every once in a while I would get 3-4 round bursts.

I love the smell of cordite in the morning....
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« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2003, 07:28:29 PM »
It\'s not all that hard to get a pistol license here in NYC if you have a clear record CHIZZY all your going to need is 6 months, a few hundred bucks and a trip to police plaza.  Wait they will tell appoint you an interview later on... (*headache...).  

I only fired a bolt action type of rifle once but didn\'t like it much because it hurt my shoulder really bad afterwards.

I want to fire a full-auto too!! give me a MP5 god damn NYC~!!!

1" group at 300yards??:nut:

I can\'t even do that at 50 yards with my USP .45ACP...:eyemouth:

i guess that\'s the beauty of long guns...:sconf:
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« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2003, 07:19:02 AM »
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maybe its the fatc that with guns you have the capability to cause harm on a much wider scale.

anyway it just might be me but i still don\'t see the need  in owning a gun.

shurely your well enough protected in the US.

what with

the Might of the US armed forces
The National gaurd
Police
FBI
SWAT
etc..etc..

All armed to the back teeth.

then whats the need for private guns ?


cuz out of the ones you listed, only one(police) will take care of your personal saftey on a daily basis. Thats also when they show up on time.

My guns are for home protection, fun at the range, and when I have large amounts of cash on me.

« Last Edit: January 31, 2003, 07:23:38 AM by luckee »
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« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2003, 07:21:19 AM »
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My guns are for home protection, fun at the range, and when I have large amounts of cash on me.


Hey can I borrow some money??? :)

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« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2003, 07:52:50 AM »
sure, i do loansharking on the side ;)
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« Reply #28 on: January 31, 2003, 08:10:10 AM »
hey luckee are the Handcuffs  that are in your gun safe for Relational purposes to ? ;)  

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« Reply #29 on: January 31, 2003, 08:13:19 AM »
they are now :D I used to be a security guard at one point int ime.
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