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« Reply #90 on: February 06, 2003, 03:20:01 PM »
I saw nothing in that presentation that warrants a war. Until we have a solid confirmation that there is missles or biological weapons and I mean, downright obvious stuff, than I refuse to support such a war and even then, I doubt I\'d support it.

I find it awful funny that we are allowed all these weapons and North Korea is building them, yet we are throwing alittle tissy fit about Iraq.

And as for this stupid war, if he does have these weapons once we go to war he will most likely pull out all stops and then launch them. By goin\' to war at this point, we are only hurting our international image and evoking a larger attack , provided he has one.

This country has gone to hell. Maybe after Bush is out of the white-house something decent will happen, but so far he has been nothing but bad luck.

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« Reply #91 on: February 06, 2003, 03:44:26 PM »
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I saw nothing in that presentation that warrants a war. Until we have a solid confirmation that there is missles or biological weapons and I mean, downright obvious stuff, than I refuse to support such a war and even then, I doubt I\'d support it.

I find it awful funny that we are allowed all these weapons and North Korea is building them, yet we are throwing alittle tissy fit about Iraq.

And as for this stupid war, if he does have these weapons once we go to war he will most likely pull out all stops and then launch them. By goin\' to war at this point, we are only hurting our international image and evoking a larger attack , provided he has one.

This country has gone to hell. Maybe after Bush is out of the white-house something decent will happen, but so far he has been nothing but bad luck.


You can thank Clinton\'s soft stance on Iraq and N. Korea for everything that is happening now.

Comparing Bush to Saddam is comparing apples and oranges.  Ace is right - you can\'t compare the two.  Some Europeans are such drama queens... isn\'t that right Sammy ;)

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« Reply #92 on: February 06, 2003, 03:47:52 PM »
/me strokes his dueling pistol
That\'s what you think!

And basically, I agree with everything L-I-C said.  Those opinions are all mine, as well as his.
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« Reply #93 on: February 06, 2003, 04:13:29 PM »
I claim those opinions too.  LOL!  :p
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« Reply #94 on: February 06, 2003, 05:44:59 PM »
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Iraqi sympathizers... yes I will use that label for some of you in this thread.  

Iraq has CLEARLY violated UN resolutions.  You have seen the  evidence yet you are blinded by:

1.  Your hatred for GW Bush
2.  Your Anti American sentiments
3.  Your lack of logical reasoning

Colin Powell laid all the evidence that was needed to show he was in violation and the next step in the process would be to oust him from power.  As luckee said, I am worried too that we won\'t actually get him, but in that regard, he won\'t be in power anymore and he will basically be a fugitive.  Whats worse?  Sitting by and letting him stay in power or having him running from country to country hiding in fear?

I just can\'t understand you Core, the evidence is clear.  Are you trying to say he hasn\'t violated UN Resolution 1441?  I am done discussing this with you, because frankly you will never see the truth even if it is "as clear as the nose on your face."  

SirMystiq...  :rolleyes: your post is unfounded bs.  I don\'t think you believe in anything to be honest.  "Why can\'t Iraq have weapons, but the US can?" - Because we are a stable government that has proven for the past 50 years we can handle weapons of mass destruction without using them.  Iraq\'s sole purpose of obtaining these weapons is to:

1.  Destroy Israel
2.  Intimidate its neighbors
3.  Use them against any country (ie. the US) who tries to stop their aggressiveness.

Why don\'t you volunteer to be a human shield.  I know for one, I wouldn\'t miss you. :rolleyes:


1. Yeah, I don\'t like Bush.
2. So in order to be pro-America, I need to kiss ass to the government, and believe everything they say?
3. Lack of reasoning? Your the one that believe EVERTHING this gov. has to say. If you don\'t then you probably find some excuse that wont make it seem so bad.

ALL of the laws and regulations that this world has are made by the US. Who blew up the JAPANASE with the nukes? Hmm I don\'t think it was hussain, the US did. After they blew em up they "realized" how destructive they were and "encouraged" the world to put laws against them so any more "disasters" like that would occur. BS. I think all the "evidence" the US has is BS, I think Sadam is BS, I think NK is BS, I think you Giga eat BS. I probably wouln\'t be missed by you, but I bet you\'ll take a kick in the balls to protect bush and his sidekicks.

North Korea has threatened to stricke first, wonder why SuperBush and his PowerNuke girls haven\'t threatened to nuke them? They probably already have, but they are still focusing in Iraq for some reason. Osama? Probably still alive somewhere planning another terrorist attack now that the US gov has apparently forgot who started all this mess.
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Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #95 on: February 06, 2003, 05:48:53 PM »
TOLD, SirMystiq!  LOL!

Let\'s poll the posters in this thread and see who\'s in the minority...  :p
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« Reply #96 on: February 06, 2003, 06:56:33 PM »
I say if we want to stop terrorism, we ban SUV\'s! Damn gas guzzlers!

Down with SUV\'s!

Oh - wait, you mean we\'re goin to war?..Ah, damn!

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« Reply #97 on: February 06, 2003, 09:34:50 PM »
"War is never the way to go? Sure about that? Hitler would have appreciated that concept! Thank God there are countries like the US that do not shy away from a problem and wilt like a flower when trouble arises." - Ace

That was a very very different situation. If you remember right, the Axis powers had invaded Poland, France, North Africa, Spain, and practically all of Europe.. not to mention fire bombing downtown London. I agree that we should have taken much sooner.. but don\'t you see the slight difference between Hitler invading Poland and Saddam "hinting" at maybe possibly having weapons that he\'s not supposed to? There is no hard evidence.. lots and lots of speculatory evidence.. some very blatant.. but nothing solid. This stuff, in a civil matter, would be thrown out of court. Yet we want the world to accept it as legitimate grounds to go into a war which could possibly destabilize all of the middle east as well southern Asia? Come on.. Like Bossieman said. We don\'t need to prove this to the Neutrals or to our Allies.. circumstancial evidence will work for them. We need to convince our ENEMIES of this.. which is going to be very very hard to do. What we\'re doing is letting "our" intelligence do the talking.. and to them.. we\'re not trustworthy. We need something rock solid that NO-ONE, no matter the alignment to the US can refute. We\'re lacking that.

That\'s what we had durring the Cuban Missle Crisis... another point of history that was brought up. Russian diplomats sat in the UN for weeks bashing the US and painting us as villans who are bringing the world to the brink of disaster... and the world sat by and did the same thing they are now. Asking why. We are faced with a similar situation now (albiet, the threat to the US is much less at the present time.. but will only grow with unfounded military action) and we do not have solid evidence.. we do not have the smoking gun we had then.. and yet we ask the world to support us in a move that has the potential to wreak untold havoc on the third world, as well as the rest of the world.

Come on.. I want to see Saddam ousted as much as the next guy. I believe we must do something.. but not military action. Not at this time. Kennedy\'s millitary think tank saw only one recouse in the Cuban Missle Crisis.. a surgical strike which would eliminate the missles.. but the reprecussions of that action would be potentially devistating. What did Bobby Kennedy say? Not an exact quote, but "There has to be another way, and if it\'s not presenting itself it means we haven\'t thought hard enough yet."

All I\'m saying is that there IS another way, even without evidence, to diffuse this situation. We just haven\'t thought hard enough yet. Weither it\'s because of ulterior motives, 9/11 righteousness, or top millitary brass looking for an excuse to try out their new toys in an actual war.

Yes, some wars are unpreventable.. but I see absolutely NO reason to think that is the case this time.
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« Reply #98 on: February 07, 2003, 01:44:28 AM »
I support Bush to whack Saddam ass anytime. Remember, Saddam is obviously part of the Osama terrorist network even if he didn\'t involved directly, he probably has given support to them via financially or some other support.

Of all the people in the Mid East, why does Bush have to keep bugging Saddam? Why don\'t the US bug some other countries like Egypt etc etc?? The guy is obviously guilty as hell and hide his weapons well off the sight of the inspector.

Believe me...Islam does not mean peace. What they forgot to tell you is Islam also means "submission (to Allah obviously)". So if you don\'t join them, you\'ll be treated as an infidel. So it means only peace if you submit to Allah. Islam have no tolerance for non-Islamwhatsoever. That is their core teaching. It can\'t be help.

Islam IS EVIL.

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« Reply #99 on: February 07, 2003, 01:59:30 AM »
Here, ladies and gentlemen, is an example of ignorance at it\'s finest.

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« Reply #100 on: February 07, 2003, 02:11:44 AM »
yeah i though i already gave PAUL a warning about his narrow mindness and RACEIST Views (it was after the Bali Bombing).

Paul consider this your last.

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« Reply #101 on: February 07, 2003, 04:14:27 AM »
SonyFan,

I don\'t have enough time to read your post carefully right now. One comment, I don\'t think we have a shot of convincing our enemies of any proof, no matter how rock solid the evidence.

I\'ll explain later. Gotta go.

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« Reply #102 on: February 07, 2003, 05:48:16 AM »
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1. Yeah, I don\'t like Bush.
2. So in order to be pro-America, I need to kiss ass to the government, and believe everything they say?
3. Lack of reasoning? Your the one that believe EVERTHING this gov. has to say. If you don\'t then you probably find some excuse that wont make it seem so bad.

ALL of the laws and regulations that this world has are made by the US. Who blew up the JAPANASE with the nukes? Hmm I don\'t think it was hussain, the US did. After they blew em up they "realized" how destructive they were and "encouraged" the world to put laws against them so any more "disasters" like that would occur. BS. I think all the "evidence" the US has is BS, I think Sadam is BS, I think NK is BS, I think you Giga eat BS. I probably wouln\'t be missed by you, but I bet you\'ll take a kick in the balls to protect bush and his sidekicks.

North Korea has threatened to stricke first, wonder why SuperBush and his PowerNuke girls haven\'t threatened to nuke them? They probably already have, but they are still focusing in Iraq for some reason. Osama? Probably still alive somewhere planning another terrorist attack now that the US gov has apparently forgot who started all this mess.


SirMystiq you don\'t have a leg to stand on with your argument.  Once again you have proven yourself to be the biggest dumbass on these boards...  why didn\'t you just leave after we found out about your fake girlfriend little man?  pfft...

1.  I don\'t believe everything the government says.  That is your stupid little interpretation.  
2.  Comparing Japan to Iraq and this situation is absurd - just like you little boy.
3.  Did you get the that N. Korea rhetoric from the new and Sen. Boxer?  Sure sounds like her to me.  Typical liberals trying to score political points when holding direct talks with N. Korea goes against everything the Dems stand for - ie. they want multilateral talks.  It is very hypocritical of people here - especially you SirDorq to call for action against N. Korea instead of Iraq.

Yes, I have resorted to name calling in his case, because I respect each and every one of you who posts here EXCEPT for him.  He has been proven to be immature and a liar and frankly he should stay out of conversations of which he knows nothing.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #103 on: February 07, 2003, 06:31:45 AM »
look i am starting to think this thread is becoming more and more like a American Bashing thread.

i know i for one, find the though if a war worrying.

but i have to say everyone should be entitled to their view just as long as we don\'t desend into ...

name calling (SirMystiq)
or
Raceist BS (PAUL)

either way this thread has went on long enough for just responce to Colin Powells address to the UN.

if you want to continue to debate the war then please feal free to do so with a new thread. but please don\'t let it sink to a level where we have to close it.


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