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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2003, 08:01:40 PM »
souly, yer like a little brother with a tiny bit of knowledge and something to prove to the world

price is hefty?  6 months ago u were on AMD\'s penis cause they were SO much cheaper then intel

amd\'s market share shrinks for a reason.  its pathetic you dont see this

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2003, 08:12:34 PM »
Can compete with it in benchmarks. Also, you can\'t dismiss the fact that the 2800+, although not as fast as the fastest P4\'s, also costs several hundred dollars cheaper.
Really, theres no reason to get a 2800+, just get a 2400+ and overclock it to 2800+ speeds (can easily be done). I\'ve gotten my 2400+ up to 177fsb x 13.5 (with the voltage maxed out), totaling about 2400mhz, but my PSU is f*cked up and it doesn\'t cold boot when I raise the voltage.
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2003, 08:25:13 PM »
keep that chip at that temp, and nothing is gonna boot

yer sitting on a bomb there

what do you think the "plateau" i mention is?
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2003, 08:39:11 PM »
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2.8ghz Thoroughbred? You mean the 2800+? You do know the 2800+ is only 2.2ghz, right?
Even so it holds its own against the fastest P4\'s out there.


2.8ghz = 2250 x 13.5 x 166x2 fsb.. I know this.
Thoroughbred is the core.

mm, You\'re like a big brother, arrogant, Mr. Know it all..
Intel do better mainly because they have there grip around everything. It\'s simply because Intel hold more business mainstream. Computer packages are mainly Intel based. I sell them. We get more people that custom build pcs asking for AMD cpus then Intel.. if you ever work in a computer store, you\'ll learn this.  Why spend more on something that have very little difference in performance either way. Only thing letting AMD down is shitty marketing. Intel market there cpus well.

AMD processors are still cheaper then intel.

AMDs 2.8gig cpu = 742 Aud
Intels 2.8gig cpu = 807 Aud

Amds 3gig cpu = 1147 Aud
Intels 3gig cpu = 1266 Aud

Any new cpu is hefty. Anyone thinking new cpus will be cheap is a moron.  Like I said, I get what i can at the time. AMDs 2.8gig cpu performs on par with p4s 2.8. I\'d save myself the 50 bucks for something else and still have a cpu that performs as good as a intel equivalent. Why the hell would i bother to buy a new mb to suit a new intel processor when i can easily update my AMD cpu.




Still waiting for you to prove amd are going to hit there plateau soon, that\'s what this is about. Not what\'s better or worse.

Simply prove it.


ps my cpu is sitting at 39c right now.. 1.8ghz cpu. Not overclocked using a old core. My cpu hasn\'t fryed yet. I\'ve had my machine running without the sink just for a test. It didn\'t burn out. The machine simply didn\'t boot. Put the sink back on. Wella, running now. The new cores don\'t get as hot.
The heat problem amd once had is no longer a issue.. Catch up with the times man. The thermal threashold for the new cpus is 120c. They won\'t get that high anyway before the computers shut themselfs off.
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« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2003, 08:45:12 PM »
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Why the hell would i bother to buy a new mb to suit a new intel processor when i can easily update my AMD cpu.
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one word, stabililty

seriously bro, im beginning to doubt the education system in oz,
read the above posts

NO LONG AN ISSUE?!

jebus, you really dont have a clue, do you?
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« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2003, 08:49:25 PM »
my system is perfectly stable. Doesn\'t crash or anything. Haven\'t had any problems. Read my post man..  Heat is no longer a issue.
mm, it\'s not a issue when systems don\'t allow cpus to fry. Simple fact u haven\'t managed to learn this.
They may get unstable and very high heat.. 70c and over etc.. but i haven\'t meet anyone with a amd cpu running that hot.  I bet you haven\'t either. Hottest i\'ve seen is 60c here in summer in 40c days or when someone has removed the sink and the machine doesn\'t boot ;)
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« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2003, 08:50:59 PM »
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« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2003, 08:55:51 PM »
he loves me... ;)  calls me he\'s little brother and all. :D
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« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2003, 08:56:10 PM »
im done with it souly

to say AMD\'s have no heat issues is COMPLETELY absurb, idiotic, and flat out ignorant
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« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2003, 08:58:02 PM »
How’s it a issue?  


please explain.

They no longer fry, they get unstable at high heat the same as intel, normally from people removing a sink or not installing the sink right. (I\'ve seen both amd and Intel users install sinks with no thermal gel) or not plugging in the sink fan etc. Amd based system shut off from high temps, Intel’s slow down,  both are unstable imo. I\'ve overclocked my cpu to a 2 ghz with the stock sink without any problems. I plan on buying a SLK800 sink with thermaltakes smart2 fan and coolmod add-on. Then I’ll overclock it heaps :D till i get a 2.8 that is.

Prove to me what heat issues they have with there processors. Don\'t give me this "you\'re uneducated" or "if you don\'t know i\'m not telling you" crap. Post facts.

You know what mm the difference between me and you. I have experience working with AMD processors... i bet you have little to none.  Just what u want to read on paper.

You say I’m uneducated. Yet you\'re replies have been without any fact and basic. Normally directed towards me in some way or another. Very common thing in people, when they can\'t debate because they have nothing to debate with...  In simple terms, you don\'t have facts so resort into attacking me directly. Were you the school bully?

Facts only please.
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« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2003, 10:16:52 PM »
No heat problems here 1.2 T-bird.
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« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2003, 10:48:46 PM »
Actually mm, it didn\'t overheat at all. The Thoroughbreds aren\'t nearly as prone to overheating as the old Tbirds were. At 177x13.5 my CPU runs lower than 100 degrees farenheit/40 celcius. My problems are PSU related, I know this because even if I don\'t overclock at all but I raise the voltage it won\'t cold boot.

You haven\'t used an AMD chip in awhile have you? Tbreds are miles ahead of the original Athlons.
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« Reply #27 on: February 14, 2003, 02:56:55 AM »
No heat nor unstable-ness problems here either (AMD XP 1900+)..

I\'ve never seen it go over 50 degrees (Celcius, the one and only!), even after hours of playing Unreal II or Battlefield 1942.

The only thing that can overheat is my Graphics card.. But Im getting a new fan for that one (cheap ass Innovision).
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« Reply #28 on: February 14, 2003, 03:34:15 AM »
like i said, im done with it


i didnt even care to read the last responses
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« Reply #29 on: February 14, 2003, 03:55:46 AM »
It\'s ok to be wrong.. atleast have the guts to admit it. ;)
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