nVidia May Scrap GFX and AMD Unleashes Barton XP3000

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AMD 3GIG CPU

AMD introduced the AMD Athlon XP processor 3000+. The chip will be based on the Barton core and will therefore feature increased cache memory, 512 kb, and support for AMD\'s 333MHz bus. According to AMD the Athlon XP processor 3000+ outperforms competing desktop PC processors by up to 17 per cent on a variety of industry standard software benchmarks.
Systems based on the AMD Athlon XP processor 3000+ are immediately available from NEC-CI in Europe and soon from other computer manufacturers around the globe.

The XP 3000+ features 640KB of total on-chip cache memory – an increase of nearly 70 per cent over previous AMD Athlon XP processors and the highest amount of on-chip cache memory of any desktop PC processor. Increased cache memory allows more information to be stored closer to the processor, leading to greater performance on software applications such as digital content creation, 3-D gaming, media encoding and office productivity.

This new chip together with an XP 2800+, based on the Barton core and an XP 3200+, expected mid-2003, will carry the AMD high-end flag until September when the much delayed ClawHammer is expected to make its first appearance.
The timing of the release of the chips based on the new core is significant since AMD are in the middle of a push to keep their prices steady in order to secure some revenue. The appearance of upmarket chips will attempt to introduce pricey but irresistable processors in order to attract orders. The new XP 3000+ chip will sell for USD 588, nearly 200 more than the Athlon XP 2800+. The new Barton based 2800+ will sell for USD 375, while the remainder of the range is expected to resist price changes.

Considering that AMD claim their new chip outperforms P4 3.06 GHz by 17 per cent, in some tests, it is easy to see that the company have pinned their hopes on the new chip and the new core. Their mission is to hold the fort until the Athlon 64 (ClawHammer) arrives.

All this when Intel is feverishly working on new Pentium 4 chips, including a new 3.2GHz processor that will carry an 800MHz bus. The company is also expected to surround the new 3.2GHz chip with a new line of redesigned 2.4GHz to 2.8GHz P4\'s which will include hyperthreading and use the 800MHz bus. This brand new P4 range of chips, based on the new chipset, are expected in Q2 of this year.

Consumers should be aware that PC performance is more than just processor frequency alone, said Kevin Krewell, senior analyst of The Microprocessor Report. Today\'s PC processors can deliver higher performance through architectural enhancements such as increased cache memory and faster bus speeds. The overall performance of a system is what\'s important, and that\'s what buyers should focus on when making a purchasing decision.

Industry support for the AMD Athlon XP processor 3000+

Packard Bell, the consumer brand of NEC Computers International and one of Europe\'s home PC leaders, is happy to broaden its product line-up with the AMD Athlon XP processor 3000+ in order to offer a full range of solutions to its customers, said Aymar de Lencquesaing, vice president, sales and marketing, consumer division, NEC Computers International.

ATI is committed to pushing the leading edge of graphics technology and creating the ultimate visual experience, said Rick Bergman, senior vice president, marketing and general manager, Desktop, ATI Technologies Inc. With the introduction of the AMD Athlon XP processor 3000+, with more on-chip cache, AMD is demonstrating its dedication to the same goal. The RADEON 9700 PRO, the world’s first and most advanced cinematic VPU, in combination with the AMD Athlon XP processor 3000+, unleashes an unbelievably realistic and immersive gaming experience.

The high-performance AMD Athlon XP processor 3000+ combined with our consumer-friendly software will help home users produce professional-level photos and videos that amaze their friends and family, said Mike Mickes, director of product management, Ulead Systems, North America. With software such as our Ulead PhotoImpact and upcoming VideoStudio 7, consumers can have an enjoyable editing experience made faster and more productive by improved processor performance.

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Geforce FX scraped maybe?

The latest story on the GeForce FX is that nVidia plans to scrap it altogether and focus on the NV-35. According to the same stories only 100,000 GFX units will see the light of day and those are expected to disappear by May. The next cards should surface sometime in June.

nVidia have not yet commented on these stories so they are far from being official. If the discontinuation of the GFX becomes a reality, it may be the sign that ATI\'s pressure is finally getting to nVidia. Dropping GFX and focusing on the NV-35 is a real indication that the company will try to reclaim the fastest card throne, by a clear margin, since GFX was shown to be only marginally faster than ATI\'s Radeon 9700 Pro. As one user commented on the x-3DFX board If a chip which is working at 500 Mhz barely beats another chip working at only 325 Mhz, there must be something wrong with this chip.

What is certain is that if this story is officially confirmed, nVidia will stand to lose a great deal of money and quite a bit of prestige. The birth of GFX has been continually plagued by problems and delays, this may be the final blow.

Things however, may not be as tragic for nVidia as the news may suggest. Granted, ATI will increase their time advantage by the, more than likely, shortage of nVidia high-end boards. A good replacement card by nVidia however, one that would hand them back the fastest chip throne, would do lots to reinstate the company as the graphics leader. NV-31 is expected to launch at CeBit in Germany, this March while NV-34 and NV-35 will probably appear in June. NV-31 GeForce FX MX and NV-34 GeForce FX Go, both NV-30 based boards, will still appear and will attempt to do battle with ATI\'s mainstream offerings while NV-35 will be the flagship chip which will fight for the throne.

http://www.megagames.com/news/html/hardware/nvidiamayscrapgfx.shtml

I\'m planning on getting a 2.8gig Cpu myself.   As for the GF FX issue.. Shame really, they would\'ve brought down Radeon9700pro prices, but I doubt they will scrap it. If they do I’ll be surprised.
I\'m disappointed in nvidia, building so much hype around a card that has twice the mhz rate then the radeon card, gets hotter and louder, yet still just barely out performs it.  Hope Nvidia can bring hope back into there fanbase. ATI are looking mighty good right now.

If AMD names their next chip Palladium I will kick them in the nuts.

/me opens the closet door

cyrix , meet AMD
AMD, meet cyrix

you two will make great friends

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/\\/\\/\\ = Ignorance is bliss.

you would be the resident expert in this area

AMD will reach its plateau very soon, just like m$

if you had more than 2-3 years experience in the industry, you might have a clue

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umm yea... AMD have been around abit longer then Cyrix. Yet seem to be going strong, why is that i wonder?
Amd will continue to compete with intel wiether u like it or not, amd are here to stay. They may creep above or may lag behind intel, either way it doesn\'t matter. They still have a user base and still have support. They’re not going to reach there plateau soon. Just like Intel they will improve.

But you\'re the know all of everything, just like the 3dfx saga you crapped on about... whatever happened to 3dfx btw, oh that\'s right Nvidia ownz them, seems you were full of S@#t in that area too

soully, as usual you have little to no knowledge of what you speak about

oh, and show me a glide app that ran better on anythiing side from a 3dfx chip

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back up anything u say.. won\'t happen.

as for 3dfx.. I agree 3dfx ran glide way better then anything else. Doesn\'t make up for the fact that they are NO LONGER. 3dfx is dead. Shame really, Nvidia could have made 3dfx/geforce hybrids. They would have rocked. Geforce chipset for D3d, 3dfx for Glide/opengl.

i dun have to back up anything i say

you speak with useless information, loose speculation, and flat out drivel

a hybrid is a pipe dream, but certainly not in ATI\'s realm of thought

i\'ll see you saying the same thing about ATI when they are back in the closet

You two done fighting yet?

Anyway, last I heard nVidia is scrapping the FX Ultra, but the regular FX will still be available.

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Originally posted by mm
i dun have to back up anything i say

you speak with useless information, loose speculation, and flat out drivel

a hybrid is a pipe dream, but certainly not in ATI\'s realm of thought

i\'ll see you saying the same thing about ATI when they are back in the closet

mm,

You have no proof what so ever of AMD soon to be reaching there plateau. yet you say i speak in "loose speculation" that\'s all you\'ve done.. High hopes and pure speculation. You have no facts. You THINK Amd are close to there plateau... that\'s hardly facts. It’s opinion...

show me facts.

show me facts that they havent

it easy to hide behind words

anyways, look at AMD\'s new toy, the 3000+.  it runs 2.17GHz - exactly the same clock speed as its 2700+ sibling. :rolleyes:

what did they do?  gimmicks
increase the cache memory?  lol

and have u seen the price?

/me hears a toilet flush

there\'s been a lot of toliet flushing going on, that might explain it.

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Originally posted by mm
show me facts that they havent

it easy to hide behind words

anyways, look at AMD\'s new toy, the 3000+.  it runs 2.17GHz - exactly the same clock speed as its 2700+ sibling. :rolleyes:

what did they do?  gimmicks
increase the cache memory?  lol

and have u seen the price?

/me hears a toilet flush

price is hefty.. just like any new p4...

I agree that the 3gig cpu is pretty stupid for it\'s name.. Should really be a 2700 gig with more cache.  That\'s why i\'m getting the 2.8ghz Thoroughbred.  Atleast lives up to it\'s name...

but simple fact is, you haven\'t showed any proof that amd are reaching there plateu...  you think they\'re going the cyrix way. but I haven\'t seen facts proving that. You\'re hiding behind words.. not me, i want facts. You have none... simple. They\'re gonna bring out the so called Athlon 64 cpu. That seems like they are developing new things to me.

when and if it they reach a plateu. (which i think is arrogant to think so).. I\'ll believe it. right now its just pure speculation.
Intel will forever lead the cpu race. but amd won\'t just die away...

2.8ghz Thoroughbred? You mean the 2800+? You do know the 2800+ is only 2.2ghz, right?
Even so it holds its own against the fastest P4\'s out there.