New York considers smoking ban...Discuss

Of course you don\'t.

Pick something you like to do now that is legal, and tell me how you would like some busy body do gooders telling you it\'s not safe and it must be banned.

Tobacco is legal!!!!!!

Ace

"My quality of life most definitely improved", yeah I believe that one.  Anyway, this is another case of big brother telling us what we can and can\'t do.

May I suggest that as a smoker, you don\'t understand what it\'s like for non smokers?  Hell yes my quality of life improved.  Cigarette smoke is pretty awful stuff.

I will acknowlege that as a non-smoker, I don\'t know what it\'s like for smokers.  The difference is they have a choice.  They can quit.  

[videoholic]

Originally posted by Ace

Tobacco is legal!!!!!!
 

Only because of the money and lobbying power of the tobacco industry.  

It is the only habbit I can think of that can cause health problems to everyone around you.

That is my point. Until those who make the laws want to grow a backbone and outlaw the stuff, then we should not be telling business owners how to run their businessesin this case.

Ace

Originally posted by Coredweller
May I suggest that as a smoker, you don\'t understand what it\'s like for non smokers?  Hell yes my quality of life improved.  Cigarette smoke is pretty awful stuff.

I will acknowlege that as a non-smoker, I don\'t know what it\'s like for smokers.  The difference is they have a choice.  They can quit.  

I was a non smoker once so I do understand.  If you have ever smoked you would know cocaine is easier to quit than smoking.  

Regardless, smoking is a nasty habit and its addiction isn\'t/wasn\'t advertised enough when I started.  Granted I will quit some day and no I won\'t be suing any tobacco companies, but to infringe on my rights as a smoker is wrong.  In CA, don\'t they have "smoking clubs" now?  I thought I read that somwhere.

[videoholic]

Problem is you\'ll get no sympathy from 75% of the people out there who couldn\'t care less about smoking.

There is absolutely no reason to smoke now.  We have known since before I was born that smoking is very bad for you and highly addictive, so why start?

And why not quit?

I find it extremely hard to believe that it is that hard to quit smoking.  You hear about people who have something tragic in their life happening and from that day forward they stop smoking.  Well why did it take something tragic to happen?

Just freaking stop.

Easier said than done Vid... and btw I am not looking for sympathy either.  Its just common knowledge that smoking is one of the hardest habits to kick.

Basically, my views on it are that smoking should be banned from restaurants, but not from bars.  Banning it from bars is rediculous, it\'s really a part of the atmosphere there.

But remember, the focus of these laws aren\'t to protect the people dining there, or anything like that.  It\'s to protect the workers.  They are the ones who could be there all day, inhaling the smoke, and it would be potentially very harmful to them.

[videoholic]

How do you eruos feel?  Are we progressive in our approach to cigarettes?  It is always portrayed that Euros smoke a lot more than we americans do.

sounds good to me, i hate coming home from a pub or whatever, and smelling like cigerette smoke the next morning, esp when your round a mates house, and have no clean clothes

[Kurt Angle]

I don\'t like smoking and never have. Funnily enough from midnight tonight tobacco advertising will be banned completely in the UK. That includes all billboards and magazines.

I thought it was bullshit when CA did it..I think its BS that Chicago wants to do it, I think its BS that FL did it, and I think its BS that NY did it.

Business owners should have the right to decide whether or not they will allow smoking on the premises. Its not that wild of an idea.....

Non-smokers have the right to breath freely as do smokers have the right to smoke. If a nonsmoker doesnt like the fact he cant smoke in a particular place, goto a place that they can. Same for the nonsmoker, dont want to goto the bar or club and come home smelling like a freshly put out butt, reall damn simple, dont goto said bar or club anymore and frequent the ones that support no smoking.


PS..I dont smoke..cigs anyway...

Originally posted by luckee
I thought it was bullshit when CA did it..I think its BS that Chicago wants to do it, I think its BS that FL did it, and I think its BS that NY did it.

Business owners should have the right to decide whether or not they will allow smoking on the premises. Its not that wild of an idea.....

Non-smokers have the right to breath freely as do smokers have the right to smoke. If a nonsmoker doesnt like the fact he cant smoke in a particular place, goto a place that they can. Same for the nonsmoker, dont want to goto the bar or club and come home smelling like a freshly put out butt, reall damn simple, dont goto said bar or club anymore and frequent the ones that support no smoking.


PS..I dont smoke..cigs anyway...

What he said!

Ace

also i thnk its good, cos most peep say they smoke more when out, up pubs etc, as there is so much smoke in the room etc, so should make it easier to quit for peep who wanna