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Offline luckee
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« on: March 21, 2003, 11:15:36 AM »
If Saddam and his sons were to go into exile now. What would happen. In other words, is it too late.

He totally dodged this one by replying that it isnt to late for the ppl of iraq to decide what to do with them.

So basically we will fight untill nothing is left.
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« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2003, 11:20:33 AM »
That is a loaded question luckee...  Everyone knows that we are not going to stop until Saddam and his whole Baathe Party are history.  I didn\'t see him dodging the question, rather he gave an honest answer - Saddam had his chance to leave and now that the end of his regime is a reality - the previous offer has been removed from the table.
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« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2003, 11:23:31 AM »
He certainly didnt answer the question as it was asked. So therefore that is dodging it.

The long shot that saddam would call things off and flee are one thing..but just say he did, there would be no reason for the allies to continue fighting.
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« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2003, 11:25:53 AM »
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He certainly didnt answer the question as it was asked. So therefore that is dodging it.

The long shot that saddam would call things off and flee are one thing..but just say he did, there would be no reason for the allies to continue fighting.


Sorry, from my perspective he answered the question.  The offer of exile expired 2 days ago.  We clearly laid out what would happen if he didn\'t leave and now it would be too little too late (but as you say not like this would ever happen).
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« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2003, 11:28:25 AM »
You apparently cant deal w ith what was being asked either.

If there is no evil dictator and no resistence fight..what is the point of the allies continually bombing and fighting?
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« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2003, 11:32:17 AM »
luckee what do you not understand?  He had his opportunity to leave and didn\'t.  The offer is no longer valid for the following reason.

Just because his demise is coming closer every hour he can\'t say "Time out guys, I will leave now."  The wheels are in motion and won\'t be stopped to accomidate a deceptive tyrant who would only use something like saying he was going into exile to buy himself more time.

Oh and its not only him - the whole ruling party must go in case you forgot.
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« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2003, 11:34:06 AM »
You still havent answered either.
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« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2003, 11:38:13 AM »
Yes I did answer...

Q. What if Saddam said he was going to go into exile with his sons should we stop the campaign?

MY ANSWER.  IT IS TOO LATE HE HAD A DEADLINE AND HE MISSED IT.  Is that clear enough?
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« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2003, 11:51:11 AM »
The bombing and fighting would stop as soon as all the threats are gone.  The bombing would more than likely stop.  The troops would continue their march towards the center of Baghdad and any bombing from that point would be towards resistence to that March.  Once Baghdad and the threats of any attack are stopped, the building would begin.  Simple as that.  If the Iraqi President (using the term Pres loosly) is gone and his sons are gone, then that would be a step.  The other and final step would be the surrender of the rest of the army, or the resistence.  Then we would go in and finish with the rebuilding phase.  That will be the longest phase.

You both were right in a sense.  Once the Iraqi leaders are gone, then there is nothing left to fight for.  Although partially true, half of Giga\'s statement is true as well.this is set in motion and even without leadership, some may stay and fight.  The troops will not blindly go into the battlefield unarmed or not ready to fight any of the armies left just because the Leaders are gone.  

This strike has been done in a way no other war has.  The Pentagon has detailed every single target from how the bombs will hit it, where they will hit it, with what force they will hit it, what time of day they will hit it, etc.  These are much different missles and bombs than have ever been used.  The ones in 91 are archiac to the ones now.  That doesn\'t mean that a slip up could still happen, but it does mean that we are making every effort we can to not kill unarmed and innocent Iraqi citizens.  This was tried to an extent in 91, but not to this extent.  They are trying to keep casualties on all areas down as low as they possibly can.  There have been a few of our guys taken out whter it be from Iraqi fighters or our own mechanicl failure of equipment.  There have been (to what we know right now) even fewer innocent Iraqi citizens than our own men struck down.  People who have surrendered have been either taken and put into good housed areas, or have been fed and given water their weapons taken, then sent on their way told to get out and find shelter.

We are not in this to kill mass amounts of people.  Just to get the objectives done.  Many are surrendering or defecting, but few are fighting and dying.

So I am suprised that this is happening as it is.  I have yet to see a single war where this much precaution has been taken for the survival of citizens of a country in a war.  Most times, jitters and just the face of war allows for mass killings and this does not seem to be the case

Thats all I have to say, but I believe strongly that the US and it allies are taking precautions and will complete the objective without bombing any more than they feel they have to to keep their safety intact.

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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2003, 11:56:18 AM »
Well said Bradley, a case in point is Germany after Hitler committed suicide, it took another 2 weeks for them to formally surrender and fighting still went on even after his death.  I should have spelled that out more clearly in my response.  Being at work sucks ;)
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« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2003, 12:02:55 PM »
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Yes I did answer...

Q. What if Saddam said he was going to go into exile with his sons should we stop the campaign?

MY ANSWER.  IT IS TOO LATE HE HAD A DEADLINE AND HE MISSED IT.  Is that clear enough?


I posed another question after that and is which I speak of.

Lets try again...

what is the point of the allies continually bombing and fighting?
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« Reply #11 on: March 21, 2003, 12:12:23 PM »
He also said that going to war without France is like going bear hunting without your piano.

Rumsfeld kicks ass.
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« Reply #12 on: March 21, 2003, 12:12:48 PM »
^^
They want us in "SHOCK AND AWE". Basically to show how the US has no merci on anyone that does not follow what they say. Doesn\'t matter if there is no reason, they don\'t give a damn. They gave him two days. TWO DAYS, they knew he wasn\'t going to retreat. They knew that. They knew they would get the chance to blow shit up. That wasn\'t no shock to them. They\'re going to fight until everything is destroyed.
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« Reply #13 on: March 21, 2003, 12:25:08 PM »
They gave him 12 years to comply with all sorts of resolutions that would have avoided this so don\'t try and play up the 2 days.  Two days is plenty of time to pack up and leave.
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« Reply #14 on: March 21, 2003, 12:29:10 PM »
Still wont answer huh?
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