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Offline Paul
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« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2003, 05:34:21 PM »
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Easy half ass warning paul.

Take that close minded bullshit elsewhere..it wont be tolerated in here.


Well, I won\'t tolerate your close minded ignorance either.

Perhaps you would trust ur life to a Muslim partner in a foxhole in Iraq there but certainly not me and I believe most people as well.

ain\'t taking no chances with potential fruitynut.

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« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2003, 05:58:12 PM »
Where have I displayed close-minded ignorance unlike yourself?
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« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2003, 06:33:39 PM »
Paul, I\'m sorry but throwing all muslims in a category is just plain ignorant. You can not blame a whole religion for what some people do, in the name of their \'God\'.
It\'s just plain ignorant.

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« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2003, 06:36:41 PM »
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Well, I won\'t tolerate your close minded ignorance either.

Perhaps you would trust ur life to a Muslim partner in a foxhole in Iraq there but certainly not me and I believe most people as well.

ain\'t taking no chances with potential fruitynut.


First off, your really are ignorant. luckee is a mod. He owns you in this forum so shut up before you say something you regret. I have friends that are muslim so I take offense to everything you say. OMG, they are muslims, ban them, take away thier rights. Give me a break. They have just as many rights as you or me. To say to ban them from the military and repeat history is just plain ignorant. I\'d trust my life with a muslim. Hell, I\'d fight along side of one. And the muslims that are fanatical make up like .0001% of the muslim population. Yes, this guy may have been a terrorist, we don\'t know but to say ban all muslims from the military is really stupid. We don\'t want a repeat of segregation.
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« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2003, 06:20:33 AM »
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First off, your really are ignorant. luckee is a mod. He owns you in this forum so shut up before you say something you regret. I have friends that are muslim so I take offense to everything you say. OMG, they are muslims, ban them, take away thier rights. Give me a break. They have just as many rights as you or me. To say to ban them from the military and repeat history is just plain ignorant. I\'d trust my life with a muslim. Hell, I\'d fight along side of one. And the muslims that are fanatical make up like .0001% of the muslim population. Yes, this guy may have been a terrorist, we don\'t know but to say ban all muslims from the military is really stupid. We don\'t want a repeat of segregation.


Owns him?  No I don\'t think so.  He is a mod and he knows exactly what he can and can\'t do.  All he is here to do is keep order and I didn\'t find Paul\'s post offensive - a bit too critical yes, but offensive no.  Considering the current situation in Iraq, views such as his should be expected and understood.  The US is at war and for all intensive purposes the Muslim world has declared us as the enemy.  How many so called clerics have called for a jihad against the US and its allies?  How many groups have called for suicide bombings against US troops and citizens?  

He is entitled to his view and I don\'t consider it ignorant to distrust a certain group of individuals for their repeated actions.  This is probably the most difficult forum to moderate due to the passionate opinions of almost everyone on the subject.  Short of directly insulting someone or being a total ass - people should be allowed to say what they want in here.  I am worried that censorship will take over this forum to an extreme due to this war as I am certain there will be events that cause some of our blood to boil.
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« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2003, 07:27:09 AM »
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Well, I won\'t tolerate your close minded ignorance either.

Perhaps you would trust ur life to a Muslim partner in a foxhole in Iraq there but certainly not me and I believe most people as well.

ain\'t taking no chances with potential fruitynut.


PAUL your Aleady on your LAST warning over in OFF topic  for posting Raceist Bulls&it!


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« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2003, 08:13:40 AM »
My question is... why is Unicorn allowed to get away with it?  Paul hasn\'t been nearly as insulting as Unicorn.
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« Reply #22 on: March 25, 2003, 01:18:25 PM »
Because newbs are always treated different apparently.

And Unicorn is "respected" :rolleyes:
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« Reply #23 on: March 25, 2003, 01:23:38 PM »
You point out in here where unicorn has shown racial ignorance since I have apparently missed it and I will deal with it accordingly.

But hell...to play pauls little game of ignorance. Should all christian white males not be trusted due to groups the the kkk, various militias, and the likes of timothy mcveigh???

Id be blasted to hell and back along with several other members. So dont try to play as if it is ok just b/c the iraqi\'s and *SOME* muslims happen to our enemies at the moment.
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« Reply #24 on: March 25, 2003, 03:15:17 PM »
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Owns him?  No I don\'t think so.  He is a mod and he knows exactly what he can and can\'t do.  All he is here to do is keep order and I didn\'t find Paul\'s post offensive - a bit too critical yes, but offensive no.  Considering the current situation in Iraq, views such as his should be expected and understood.  The US is at war and for all intensive purposes the Muslim world has declared us as the enemy.  How many so called clerics have called for a jihad against the US and its allies?  How many groups have called for suicide bombings against US troops and citizens?  

He is entitled to his view and I don\'t consider it ignorant to distrust a certain group of individuals for their repeated actions.  This is probably the most difficult forum to moderate due to the passionate opinions of almost everyone on the subject.  Short of directly insulting someone or being a total ass - people should be allowed to say what they want in here.  I am worried that censorship will take over this forum to an extreme due to this war as I am certain there will be events that cause some of our blood to boil.


I understand that he is entitled to his opinion but his post was more like racism than an opinion. According to his post, we should treat muslims like second class people.
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« Reply #25 on: March 26, 2003, 06:26:59 AM »
Just to play Devil\'s advocate here... Pauls views reflect the views of many Americans who have fought in various wars in the region since WWII.  In the book that Band of Brothers was based on many GI\'s made observations of the various people and cultures they encountered throughout the war.  In it, they rate Arabs the most "untrustworthy" and that they only cooperate as long as they receive a direct personal benefit from the action they are doing.  The second worst were the French and surprisingly the people that they could most identify with and respect were the Germans.  Granted this is almost 60 years ago, but not a whole hell of a lot has changed.  

Pauls beliefs are quite common among US military personel from both the present and the past.  Having served in the armed forces myself I tend to agree that this is a defacto belief.

As far as Unicorns comments... they may not be "racist", but they certainly are inflammatory.  Hell, look at the title of his thread!  There is a very fine line between what Paul is doing and what Unicorn is posting and personally if Unicorn can post that nonsense and basically offend *almost* every American on this board, Pauls comments about not wanting to fight along side a Muslim are no less valid.  Considering the wacko who threw the grenades in the tents of some of the 101st Airborne a few nights ago, what do you expect?  

I know this is difficult forum to participate in (let alone moderate) as there have been times where I have typed a response and after rereading it, decided not to post it.  War (especially this one, which involves different cultures and religions) blurs that line between racism and patriotism - I doubt anyone can dispute that.  You have to expect peoples emotions to run high at a time such as this and short of someone advocating genocide and personally attacking someone it must be remembered some of us do feel very passionately about this war.  Americans (especially the younger generations) for the most part have never seen a war like this and to see bodies of our troops being propped up on Iraq TV with a smiling/laughing Iraqi standing over them brings out the anger in most.  Most who have served in the military have seen images like the ones shown on TV, but this war is the most televised event to date (which has it positives and negatives) and we all have to expect some emotion in these posts.

I am not trying to tell any of the mods how to do their job, just have an understanding that some here may have ties to the military or friends and family serving in this war.  Some news will cause knee jerk reactions in some.  This goes for both sides of the argument as we have many nationalities here and even though I disagree with everything Unicorn says, I didn\'t feel it should have been edited.  The same goes for Paul - as I felt he did go a bit overboard, I don\'t think scolding him publically was appropriate either.

In closing, I love having a political forum here as it is a place to vent and on rare occasions a place to learn from each other.
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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2003, 10:52:41 AM »
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« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2003, 10:53:51 AM »
what did i miss?

his post was too long for me to read
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« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2003, 05:18:31 PM »
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Paul, I\'m sorry but throwing all muslims in a category is just plain ignorant. You can not blame a whole religion for what some people do, in the name of their \'God\'.
It\'s just plain ignorant.


What a bunch of ignorant fools...throw me out for all you like but THIS IS MY STANCE.

I can\'t and won\'t blame any other religion..except Islam.....if you people actually take some time to study it, you\'ll understand...I\'ve also spent quite some time in Muslim countries and see how fruity they\'re are, their biased politics, their violence and rage.

Thanks to Giga for supporting my view. At least, there\'s still one
who is not as naive here.

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« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2003, 05:23:07 PM »
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In it, they rate Arabs the most "untrustworthy" and that they only cooperate as long as they receive a direct personal benefit from the action they are doing.
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Exactly!!! Muslims are a bunch of greedy jackass who will stab you in the back the moment they get a chance even if you\'ve been good to them.  Thereis no friends with INFIDELS. That is my experience...

To them DIRECT BENEFIT is everything...

(I acknowledge my statement DOES NOT APPLY to each and every muslim in this world, but it applies to a good enough portion of it.)

 

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