So what if no WMD?

I read through all the bithe and zimbabwe stuff that came up on page 2, but lemme just step back a little.

Originally posted by Capcom
We need to leave N. Korea alone. They are china\'s next door neighbor, and China does not want democracy close to them. Things have changed since we fought Korea the first time. For one N.K. and China both have nukes now that can hit the u.s.

So far as Sadaam goes. So what if he brutalizes his people? This happens everyday, and it happens even in this country. Every goverment that I have seen thinks it is god.

It\'s human nature to pick on things that are weaker than yourself. Look at small children. They are by far some of the cruelest people on earth. School children taunt weaker children in a never ending cycle that scars for a lifetime.

It\'s all bs politics, and I no longer care one way or another.

Actually China just doesn\'t want US military bases on its doorstep. That\'s why they sent their expeditionary force during the North Korean Police Action. They prolly wouldn\'t mind a democratic and unified Korea, its more money for them - just don\'t have any US bases in the northern part.

North Korea doesn\'t have nukes yet either. Though it is widely accepted that they\'ve resumed an active program to get them.

[SirMystiq]

Originally posted by luckee
Im still waiting for someone to display how Saddam is a threat to the world.

He hasn\'t been, still isn\'t, and if left in power, probably still wouldnt be.

Thats basically why I knew Saddam had little to nothing of importance or our intelligence and satellites would have picked it up.

Either way...it isnt over yet and he may very have them after all.

^^^
Word.

But you know he does have WMD and whatever.......

The point is, IF he really was going to use them or sell them to terrorist. Why is Bush so sure that he hasn\'t already? How do we know that Bin Laden doesn\'t have one already?

You guys say that Saddam was your smoking gun. So the rest of the people that are now "free" can do whatever they want now. There is total chaos in Iraq. People killing each other, stealing, all sorts of mess left. But that doesn\'t matter because Saddam is now out of power and the threat is no more??

Originally posted by luckee
So what about the other 112 countries with leaders worse or similar to saddam?

Now that the WMD lie is out of the way,  the last exuse is Saddam is a bad guy.  I am slowly trying to chip away at this excuse.  I\'m trying to prove that if they were so upset with what Saddam was doing that there is way more simpler,  cheaper,  and less costlier ways to getting rid of him then taking over the entire country and forcing the Western way of life on them.

About the chaos in Iraq...It just shows the Bush administration\'s war plan was rushed and flawed.  Most of the rioters are probably Kurds,  trashing Iraqi bussinesses or Terroring apart presidential palaces.  You hear about the happy rioters cheering the U.S. on,  but you dlon\'t hear about the shop owner who had his entire store vandalized and looted  

Green Meanie...as you can see even though Saddam doesnt have WMDs they still think he is a threat to the world...by harboring terrorists...so,  since Iraq Harbors a terrorist camp,  war is justified on the entire country.  Well go get the rest of the Middle Eastern countries that harbor terrorists.

mm...don\'t make this a mm vs psx2central thread

[Titan]

Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
we didn\'t push anyone, we sold them alcohol for land.. There\'s nothing wrong with that.

Now why don\'t we do that anymore? Oh, and Australia fought in WWI and II An Australian machine gunner shot down the Red Baron. So they aren\'t all that bad

clowd, do us a favor

go suck saddam\'s penis and get it over with
thank you

mm..with all due respect since you basically run this show... I still moderate here and get on others for similar posts.

So if thats all you are going to respond with to some of the posters, pplease dont bother.

Then again, like I said, you still run the show. I just dont see the need for that.

[videoholic]

I have yet to have heard a single educated person anywhere explain why we shouldn\'t have taken Saddam out of power.


I saw an interview with an iraqi scientist yesterday.  He was saying the biggest problem with the UN is that they didn\'t talk to any of the Iraqi scientists that defected.  He also said they did an awful job interviewing the ones they did get to interview.  He said that he personally worked in the nuclear labs and he know for a fact that Saddam has amassed quite a bit of WMD that we will find.

He did say however that quite a bit of the biological stuff is out dated and probably isn\'t any good anymore that being Anthrax.

Originally posted by Clowd



mm...don\'t make this a mm vs psx2central thread

Don\'t you mean a clowd vs psx2central thread?

aye, luckee
aye, giga

at least noone suggested that clowd should not go do it

he\'s been warned to keep things clean and topic related.

Believe me, he is on thin ice

[videoholic]

You probably made him cry luckee.

Originally posted by Clowd


Now that the WMD lie is out of the way

I stopped reading right there.

Out of the way? The search has just begun.

Originally posted by mm
they got rid of saddam, thats enough for me

That was the purpose the whole time. The weapons of mass destruction was an attempt to get more allies. Which worked decently.

I think this war is totally justified- the Iraqi\'s are free of his reigne of terror, and we now have another powerful ally.

BTW: I havent heard of how Afghanistans Government is doing as of lately? Has it gotten off the ground?

Originally posted by mm
green, you dont have a question
you dont even have a rational argument

luckee, im sorry you fail to see saddam as a threat to the world

what he meant to say



"luckee, im sorry you fail to see saddam as a threat to Israel "



j/k

[videoholic]

There are a lot of interesting stories about the scientist that gave up. This guy apparently will eventually spill the beans.  He is just trying to play his cards so he gets the sweetest deal.  This guy could have easily been someone on the insde that our CIA has been emailing and talking to all along.  I mean look at how he was brought in.  The dude knows he has the info to be big pimpin for the rest of his life.  He\'s just got to play his cards.  The 7 of diamonds to be exact.