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8 million could lose overtime pay. Bush Admin at it again.
« on: June 26, 2003, 03:05:46 PM »
June 26 — Up to 8 million U.S. workers could lose their right to overtime pay if Bush administration rules are put in place, according to a new study released Thursday. The new proposed rules would dramatically change who qualifies as a salaried worker, and which hourly wage earners are able to collect overtime.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/931238.asp?cp1=1

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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2003, 06:22:22 PM »
I am salaried... no opinion.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2003, 06:51:05 PM »
overtime pay = higher prices

american workers are greedy and lazy
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8 million could lose overtime pay. Bush Admin at it again.
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2003, 10:23:22 PM »
Well I don\'t have  a job. Im looking for one but noooooooo nobody calls.

But back to topic, what can I say that hasn\'t been said already.

Bush = The Devil
U.S. = Soon to be hell
U.S. Citizens = Soon to be burned in hell
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2003, 11:44:41 PM »
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overtime pay = higher prices

american workers are greedy and lazy


Except employees of places like walmart and target that force employees to work overtime for no extra money or face being fired.

Besides, this isnt about who is lazy and who isnt. To me it\'s all about being paid for the work one is doing. One shouldnt have to worry about job security just b/c they wont work overtime if they get no benefit from it.
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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2003, 02:48:22 AM »
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Bush = The Devil
U.S. = Soon to be hell
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i certainly hope your being facetious
you can\'t be this ignorant
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2003, 05:28:13 AM »
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i certainly hope your being facetious
you can\'t be this ignorant


He isn\'t.  He is still pissed that Bush hasn\'t given citizenship to every illegal immigrant from Mexico in this country :rolleyes:
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2003, 10:06:48 AM »
Yeah that will stimulate the economy.  All those tax cuts didn\'t do crap for the economy. Now he\'s pushing this ?????


Bush needs to go. !!!

This guy has nothing to offer the middle to lower classes. He\'s all about Big Business.


Time for the American people to take this country back !!!!



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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2003, 10:11:53 AM »
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Well I don\'t have  a job. Im looking for one but noooooooo nobody calls.

But back to topic, what can I say that hasn\'t been said already.

Bush = The Devil
U.S. = Soon to be hell
U.S. Citizens = Soon to be burned in hell





Well you need to realize that close 30% of Americans completely oppose Bush, and the Iraq war

so please do not include me in your list.

It is actually pretty naive of you to place everyone in America in the same category. Were not.

just because my parent had sex and I was born on this soil doesn\'t mean I blindly follow the idiocy that goes on here.



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« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2003, 03:44:32 PM »
Don\'t make the same mistkae I did Sirmystiq and put all Americans in the same boat

It\'s just that these people supporting Bush and his administration are so outspoken they just drown the people who think Bush isn\'t doing the right things out.

Alot of the media and other peole are trying to make it seem as if the anti-Bush people are such a minority,  and they fooled me for a while there.

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« Reply #10 on: June 27, 2003, 04:23:18 PM »
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overtime pay = higher prices

american workers are greedy and lazy
I wonder if you bothered to read the linked article.  That is such an absurd conservative knee-jerk reaction.

The reason for the current prevalance of overtime pay is that corporations have scaled back their workforce to the point where they often have one person doing the work of two.  To complete their responsibilities, the employees have to work overtime, but this is still cheaper for the employer than adding another FT employee and the benefits required for that person.

Corporate america has been dreaming of taking away more of these people\'s rights to overtime pay, so they can be forced to work the same 50, 60 or 70 hours a week, but only be paid their previous base salary.  Do you think the corporations are going to put that savings into increasing their workforce?  I DONT THINK SO.  It\'s going to increase their profits, which was the whole idea when GW Bush set out to make their dreams come true.

George Bush represents CORPORATIONS, not human beings.  You elected a man who doesn\'t give a shit about you.
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« Reply #11 on: June 27, 2003, 05:22:46 PM »
Woa. Hold up. Chill for a minute.

That\'s not what I meant by that. What I meant to say was that as long as Bush is president the US will suffer. And who else suffers if the country suffers? The people living in the country. Im not trying to say that Bush\'s followers are burning in hell. I meant to say that if Bush continues to be the dumb rich Republican he is. As a result America will fail with him. And every person in America will be affected. That\'s what I meant. Bush is the devil making stupid mistakes, the US will be the soon to be hell, b/c that\'s what where the devil lives remember?? The US peeps will burn in hell b/c they live here and are being governed by the devil. You all get me now?!

And Giga it\'s pretty gay you keep bringing that up. Why don\'t you post about your position inn this topic. Why? B/c you know is as stupid as everything else Bush has done.
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2003, 06:07:08 PM »
Here is the problem.  They are trying to get corporations to instead of making people work more hours, higher more people to work those hours.

This doesn\'t work.

It\'s far cheaper to pay someone extra in OT than to pay for an extra employee.

Don\'t forget, it\'s not just the wage you are paying.  As an employer you also have to pay tax on the employee, Social Security, MEdical Benefits, Workman\'s comp insurance, etc. etc. etc.


It\'s far easier to just give people overtime.

My fear is that they make people work more hours and just expect them to work for base wage.

I am salary (Not a very big one at that) person so it doesn\'t effect me, but I don\'t like it nevertheless.
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2003, 06:49:40 PM »
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And Giga it\'s pretty gay you keep bringing that up. Why don\'t you post about your position inn this topic. Why? B/c you know is as stupid as everything else Bush has done.


You are the one who volunteered that bit of information mr bling bling and if you learn to read you will see I did post that I had no position as I am a salaried employee...
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2003, 07:24:51 PM »
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Well I don\'t have  a job. Im looking for one but noooooooo nobody calls.

But back to topic, what can I say that hasn\'t been said already.

Bush = The Devil
U.S. = Soon to be hell
U.S. Citizens = Soon to be burned in hell



What kind of a job are you looking for?
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