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Offline Kurt Angle

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« on: July 19, 2003, 03:30:30 AM »
Well in America anyway ;)

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A new bill proposed in Congress on Wednesday would land a person in prison for five years and impose a fine of $250,000 for uploading a single file to a peer-to-peer network.The bill was introduced by Reps. John Conyers Jr. (D-Mich.) and Howard Berman (D-Calif.). They said the bill is designed to increase domestic and international enforcement of copyright laws.  



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We must have lot\'s of criminal\'s on this forum if this is true :p

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« Reply #1 on: July 19, 2003, 03:43:03 AM »
Stupid assholes.
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« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2003, 04:50:47 AM »
^ agreed, asswipes think they can control everything.
/me goes to upload some files.
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« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2003, 07:30:31 AM »
I turned my shit off, and haven\'t downloaded shit since Thursday, after hearing about my dad\'s friend at work getting his cable turned off because of the subpoenas going out, I can\'t live wihtout cable.

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« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2003, 08:09:39 AM »
Next year KaZaA and programs like it will be forbidden in my country.

Good luck I say, in a poll in the biggest newspaper in my country, ~80% said they did not care and will continue to use KaZaA.

As will I! :)
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« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2003, 08:10:33 AM »
Whoopee. It\'d actually kill you all to buy an actual cd, wouldn\'t it?

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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2003, 08:31:54 AM »
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Whoopee. It\'d actually kill you all to buy an actual cd, wouldn\'t it?


Because all Kazaa is good for is downloading music, right? :)

What about pr0n! Pr0n pictures, pr0n videos!

Besides, Kazaa is good for sampling music and deciding whether or not to buy a CD (and let me tell you, CD\'s are becoming ridiculously expensive here ~ $20+).
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2003, 08:53:13 AM »
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Besides, Kazaa is good for sampling music and deciding whether or not to buy a CD (and let me tell you, CD\'s are becoming ridiculously expensive here ~ $20+).

agreed i got sick of buying 20$ cd\'s only to end using them as coasters (it costs much more if i want some hard to find albums, especially death metal bands) .

so what harm does it coz if i download one song or a program, its not as if the companies are loosing anything, i wouldnt have both those products any ways unless i liked them offcourse.
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« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2003, 09:43:28 AM »
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Whoopee. It\'d actually kill you all to buy an actual cd, wouldn\'t it?


Yes it would. Especially considering most artists put only maybe 10 tracks or so on a CD and expect me to pay 20 dollars for that crap.

I\'m downloadin music off Kazaa until they handcuff me.

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« Reply #9 on: July 19, 2003, 10:11:14 AM »
And hopefully that will be rather soon. :)

If you want p0rn. Newsgroups are the best place. Everyone knows this. Sheesh.

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« Reply #10 on: July 19, 2003, 05:25:12 PM »
The fact is the music industry (just addressing that issue) is doing this to themselves.  

- They fight "compilation" technology, whereby you could legally buy a mix-cd of say 15 songs for 30 bucks (you choose the songs, of course).

- They put rediculous rules on LEGAL online downloading (mp3s downloaded for instance, even though you might pay a dollar for a track, can only be listened to 10 times, then delete themselves)

- CDs get shorter and more expensive at the same time.

- Sites offering 30 second previews of tracks have been cutting back big time, now you might only be able to hear a couple of the tracks (usually the singles anyways).  Sometimes the first 30 seconds give a totally wrong impression of the track.

The fact is, I spend a lot of money every year on DVDs and CDs....  but for that money, I expect value.  After buying a few CDs with literrally 1 good song on them, I started downloading whole CDs.  What I don\'t like, I delete..... If I like 3 or more songs on a CD, I usually buy it.  The fact is, without MP3 downloads, I would have retreated into only buying a few CDs a year, from the bands that I already like, or have heard a lot of songs on the radio from.  If they stop me from downloading music CDs, they\'re going to loose money.

Kazaa and other peer-to-peer groups have nothing to fear because quite simply it\'s not up to them to police how people are choosing to use their software.  There are SO many legitimate uses for peer-to-peer sharing that it\'s crazy to say that it can only be used for piracy.
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« Reply #11 on: July 19, 2003, 05:32:08 PM »
I use kazaa, I download some songs (Barley any really..) And usualy go out and buy a CD from that band afterwords.... But im not a big kazaa user.
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« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2003, 07:27:42 PM »
I use WinMX to download music after they screwed up Napster.  The sad thing is I download music all the time, but if they make it so I can\'t, I\'m still not going to buy cds.

They\'re overpriced and generally crappy.  Downloading is no risk.

Oh yeah, and that depression thing, wonder if that affects sales of overpriced, crappy merchandise? Hmm...

Lower the price on cds and I will buy more.  Make download programs illegal and I\'ll become a bigger radio fan... that, and learn to use my CD burner more often.

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« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2003, 07:40:08 PM »
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And hopefully that will be rather soon. :)

If you want p0rn. Newsgroups are the best place. Everyone knows this. Sheesh.


Awww... cry me a river buddy. You think makin file-sharing illegal is gonna put an end to piracy?

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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2003, 03:27:55 AM »
It won\'t do a darn thing.  People have been doing it for as long as I can remember.  I remember having a 1200 baud modem d/l crap on boards.  My 300 baud just wasn\'t fast enough :)

The is no way they can do anything other that scare people.  There are 3.5 million people on Kazaa. Good luck in fighting that mess.  Not only that, but is it fair to only enforce it against americans when the whole world does it?

What they really should do if they want to enforce it is somehow make a cap on the bit rate below 192.  Then when you burn a CD of songs you like and it sounds like shit you will be enticed to buy the CD.
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