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« Reply #45 on: July 25, 2003, 10:19:15 AM »
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Some of you are overlooking the big picture. The Bush Adminstration threw a fit when video and pictures was released of our own soliders dead, but now that it is Iraqi leaders being killed, pictures are A-OK to be released. There was no need in it.

I would believe they killed them, if they said they did . WMD is another story though and for different reasons and you know that .


What is there to prove by showing our soldiers dying?  We believe they are dead.  We trust that our government wouldn\'t lie to us and tell us our soldiers are dead.

The Iraqi\'s don\'t believe it though.  THey have gone through a hell of a lot and need to know that these tyrants won\'t come back.  

That is the big picture.
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« Reply #46 on: July 25, 2003, 10:42:57 AM »
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And Green Meanie, you can die for all I care.


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« Reply #47 on: July 25, 2003, 11:01:45 AM »
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Where were all you who are criticizing the adminstration when Iraq was showing dead US troops?  As a group you didn\'t raise nearly the amount of fuss that you are raising in this case.  Just another showing of the hatred and skepticism you have for your own country when you ramble on about two people who are guilty of numerous crimes against humanity.


The fact is myself and at least two others didnt give a flying **** if our guys/gals were on TV or not.

The US made this big stink...ran off at the mouth war crimes...yadda..yadda..yadda over showing them on TV. Yet it is ok for us to do the same.

Hypocite much?
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« Reply #48 on: July 25, 2003, 11:11:00 AM »
The fact is, you complain when the US shows bodies, yet in your own words... "myself and at least two others didnt give a flying **** if our guys/gals were on TV or not."  

So answer me this... why you care about 2 dead Iraqis being shown on television?  Maybe its because you despise the government?  Why don\'t you get down to real reasons you think everything the US does is wrong... not only you, but LIC as well...

No matter what was done, I am sure the lot of you would complain.
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« Reply #49 on: July 25, 2003, 01:04:53 PM »
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Clowd whats up with your sudden change of heart? I mean preaching and stuff...

 


Warefare of the flesh will not solve the problems of today.  All the military might in the world will not bring an end to violence.  You might as well be chasing the wind.

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\'...beat your swords into plowshares and your spears into pruning shears...\'

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« Reply #50 on: July 25, 2003, 01:15:32 PM »
I know this is rich comming from me but you guys are starting to scare me :sconf: :eek: :sconf:.
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« Reply #51 on: July 25, 2003, 01:36:49 PM »
I don\'t remember someone bringing up the whole US soldier pictures. If you all did, then I didn\'t say anything about it. So I think it\'s retarded for both sides to do this kind of garbage. It\'s disrespectful to the families of the one that were killed. Doesn\'t matter how evil they were. The US people were hurt by the pictures of the dead soldiers, why on earth would the US be as insensitive and pull a stunt that they argued so much against. It doesn\'t matter how evil those two were, what matters is how the world looks at it. It\'s ok for the side showing the pictures, It\'s not ok for the rest of the world. Why would the Iraqi\'s even care if they are dead? They\'re "free" aren\'t they? How is showing the pictures of those two guys to the whole world going to help the US soldiers being murdered everyday?

Iraqi Soldier" You\'re going to die you american pig"
Us soldier "LOOK!!!" *shows pictures*
Iraqi Soldier "ohhh noooo please noooo" *shoots himself*
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« Reply #52 on: July 25, 2003, 01:56:40 PM »
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The fact is, you complain when the US shows bodies, yet in your own words... "myself and at least two others didnt give a flying **** if our guys/gals were on TV or not."  

So answer me this... why you care about 2 dead Iraqis being shown on television?  Maybe its because you despise the government?  Why don\'t you get down to real reasons you think everything the US does is wrong... not only you, but LIC as well...

No matter what was done, I am sure the lot of you would complain.



I swear you have a huge problem with reading or comprehending. I always have to tell you this.


Anywho...let\'s try together now.

I complained b/c of the principle, IE..my hypocrite much statement.
Why is it ok for the US to show them on TV but the Iraqis were blasted all to hell for doing the same thing. Hell, the US even threatend war crime charges.

Is it a little more clear for you foggy?

As for the rest of your comment. I don\'t think everything our government does is wrong, I don\'t remember saying that, so I will thank you not to put words in my mouth. Unless that is the only way you can have a discussion with me.( something else you do all of the time when we debate)

There was NO good reason for the gov. to display them on TV since they were so adament about the Iraqis showing our brave men and women. That is the point.


once again..hypocrite much?
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« Reply #53 on: July 25, 2003, 02:52:04 PM »
It\'s good that they show them to the Iraqis. It\'s the media over here that keeps showing us the images. I don\'t need to see it every five minutes but unlike most gruesome images, these don\'t bother me too much.
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« Reply #54 on: July 25, 2003, 04:16:07 PM »
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As for the rest of your comment. I don\'t think everything our government does is wrong, I don\'t remember saying that, so I will thank you not to put words in my mouth. Unless that is the only way you can have a discussion with me.( something else you do all of the time when we debate)

There was NO good reason for the gov. to display them on TV since they were so adament about the Iraqis showing our brave men and women. That is the point.


once again..hypocrite much?


Ahhh you have to resort to name calling...  anyway, you obviously don\'t have a grasp on reality for if you did you would understand that the Iraqi\'s are still terrified of these people.  I was just watching some interviews with some Iraqi citizens who after seeing the bodies STILL don\'t believe they are dead.  To try and make some of these people understand that the former Iraqi regime is dead is not a good enough reason?  

Also, don\'t compare Saddam and his sons to normal Iraqi citizens.  If you knew anything about war and history you would know that since World War II imagery of war and its effects has been widespread.  Numerous photographs of Hitler, Goring, Himmler along with deceased Japanese officials were shown.  Was it wrong to show those?  Was it wrong to show the world victims of the Holocaust?  I find it laughable that you think the dead bodies of two "evil" brothers being displayed for identification offensive.  In essense you are the hypocrite in that you find nothing wrong with showing dead Americans on TV, but god forbid they show any dead Iraqis.

You put your own words in your own mouth no matter how veiled you try and make them.  Don\'t try and hide behind your insinuations and claim I am putting words in your mouth it just makes you look stupid along with the name calling and pithy little insults.
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« Reply #55 on: July 25, 2003, 04:19:02 PM »
If they don\'t believe it then thats their problem!!

Maybe it\'s just the fact that Bush\'s governemtn has the tendency to lie about things just to get things their way. Maybe it\'s the fact that they have the rep of never catching the target.
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« Reply #56 on: July 25, 2003, 05:49:13 PM »
Yeah, it has nothing to do with the decades of torcher and living in a repressed society.  

You gotten a job yet?
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« Reply #57 on: July 25, 2003, 06:41:05 PM »
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Ahhh you have to resort to name calling...  anyway, you obviously don\'t have a grasp on reality for if you did you would understand that the Iraqi\'s are still terrified of these people.  I was just watching some interviews with some Iraqi citizens who after seeing the bodies STILL don\'t believe they are dead.  To try and make some of these people understand that the former Iraqi regime is dead is not a good enough reason?  

Also, don\'t compare Saddam and his sons to normal Iraqi citizens.  If you knew anything about war and history you would know that since World War II imagery of war and its effects has been widespread.  Numerous photographs of Hitler, Goring, Himmler along with deceased Japanese officials were shown.  Was it wrong to show those?  Was it wrong to show the world victims of the Holocaust?  I find it laughable that you think the dead bodies of two "evil" brothers being displayed for identification offensive.  In essense you are the hypocrite in that you find nothing wrong with showing dead Americans on TV, but god forbid they show any dead Iraqis.

You put your own words in your own mouth no matter how veiled you try and make them.  Don\'t try and hide behind your insinuations and claim I am putting words in your mouth it just makes you look stupid along with the name calling and pithy little insults.



Point out where I called you a name.......


Anywho....dont try to side step this. The point is not to convince the Iraqi ppl, espescially considering most of them dont tune in the states anyway....but the point is the stink they raised when the Iraqis did the same thing.

Dont try to go around what we are talking about in order to prove your point.

I didnt compare anything and I dont care what was shown in the past. Since you still have a problem comprehending, lets try this one more time.

i DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYONE SHOWING ANY DEAD MOTHER****ER ON TV....GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. i HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HYPOCRISY DISPLAYED BY OUR GOVERNMENT AS USUAL.

Is that more clear? Once agaion, I do not care who shows what. I just think what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Not crying when someone else does what you do, or b/c they beat you to it.
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« Reply #58 on: July 25, 2003, 07:22:22 PM »
No, Luckee. They are goin\' to avoid your point and continue on with this non-sense.. I\'m like you - I don\'t care about them showing these images. I am not being forced to look at them, but I think it\'s pathetic that our goverment threw a fit when pictures was shown of our soliders. Now that we have the bragging rights - it\'s okay for the goverment to show the pictures.

It\'s a rather clear point - but if you want to be blind to it, that\'s okay.
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« Reply #59 on: July 25, 2003, 07:47:14 PM »
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Point out where I called you a name.......


Anywho....dont try to side step this. The point is not to convince the Iraqi ppl, espescially considering most of them dont tune in the states anyway....but the point is the stink they raised when the Iraqis did the same thing.

Dont try to go around what we are talking about in order to prove your point.

I didnt compare anything and I dont care what was shown in the past. Since you still have a problem comprehending, lets try this one more time.

i DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYONE SHOWING ANY DEAD MOTHER****ER ON TV....GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. i HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HYPOCRISY DISPLAYED BY OUR GOVERNMENT AS USUAL.

Is that more clear? Once agaion, I do not care who shows what. I just think what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Not crying when someone else does what you do, or b/c they beat you to it.


you are wrong as usual... :rolleyes: read what you type.

I don\'t think you can comprehend what you write... typical for one such as you.
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