Is I-Tunes the answer?

Well I\'m not with you LIC, sorry. About the cops, imagine you go to the airport and carry a bag with 150 cds you\'ve downloaded from itunes and burn into cds to carry to your new home. I doubt that you can abandon the airport with your cds. Seriously.

[videoholic]

I don\'t get the problem Adan.  They have no probable cause that you didn\'t pay for the CDs.  If they were tracking you, watching you download the music for free, then nabbed you at the airport with the discs, then yes.

But you just have a bunch of CDs that you may/may not have paid for.  Big whoop.

Looks like Adan is gonna try something...

Anyway, I\'m with Vapor here. I haven\'t bought a music cd in years. Napster, Morpheus, and Kazaa have done it all for me and will continue too until it can\'t be done any longer.

Recently though, the files I have downloaded have become utter crap. So I may have to find some other way to get my music sooner or later. That or I\'ll just listen to the radio. And please don\'t start with the mainstream music is crap thing you guys always seem to do.

I can read today in a local newspaper:

2 guys arrested while driving a car with a badg of 200 pirated cds that may be destined to illegal shops.

There is the problem guys.

[Living-In-Clip]

Maybe in your country, but not America.

The cop\'s cannot arrest you for just havin\' a bunch of cd\'s. They need probable cause and a warrant to search anything you have. I don\'t know how Spain is - but  in America, there is no problem. And if the cop\'s did take your cds, you could end up suin\' the shit out of the city / state.

I don\'t see what\'s so difficult to understand here Adan.  If you\'re against the law, that\'s great, but it doesn\'t mean it\'s nullified because you disagree with it.  If it\'s against the law, then it\'s against the law -- there\'s no disputing it unless it goes to the Supreme Court or however way you guys change laws in Spain.  Here in the states, your bag is searched at the airport, but having CD\'s in your bag isn\'t enough evidence to search them for pirated music.  Plus, they would need a warrant to search the contents of those CD\'s since those items could potentially be private information for a corporation, a private business, or even love notes from yoru girlfriend.  There\'s no way to be sure.

I think maybe you\'re blowing this way out of proportion.  Everyone they nab here in the states for pirating music is generally watched for an amount of time before they "storm the castle" so to speak and the reason for that is to acquire evidence for a proper warrant for a search and siezure.  I\'ve never heard about someone going to an airport and being arrested because they had their bag searched and there was some blank CD\'s in there.

Originally posted by Seed_Of_Evil
I can read today in a local newspaper:

2 guys arrested while driving a car with a badg of 200 pirated cds that may be destined to illegal shops.

There is the problem guys.

Adan there is a difference between a  home user who downloads a bunch of cd\'s (that they paid for) and burned them to cd and a couple of guys with 200 cd from the same artist or a couple of artist they are meant to look like the "real" cd.

Ok calm down guys...

Perhaps i\'m "blowing this out of proportion" because the sitation we\'re living right now in Spain. SGAE (Sociedad General de Autores Españoles = General Society of Spanish Authors) has spoken with the government and since 1st September every cd-rom is imposed by a "canon" of 20% - 40% because they say that every disc is used for copying music. So, the same disc you paid for 50cent on 31th October, costs you 85cent today. Just figure out how is the people.

They\'re criminalising the simple act of burning a cd, no matter what\'s inside. If i wanna burn my own program i made yesterday into a cd, i\'ll be paying to the authors with this shameful, absurd law.

Today\'s front page of the Hollywood Reporter bears the headline "RIAA LAUNCHES LEGAL OFFENSIVE - \'Major\' file sharers targeted."  The story states that the RIAA filed 261 lawsuits on Monday against individual file sharers.

This is so stupid it\'s becoming comical.  Anyone who wants to seriously start trading mp3s should switch entirely to the alt.binaries groups on Usenet.  Reading, downloading, and even posting files on Usenet can be completely anonymous if you know what you\'re doing.  It\'s so much more secure for the end user than the current crop of P2P applications.

No matter how much they cripple online file sharing, they will still never be able to eliminate individual CD duplication.  Every technology they come up with will be defeated sooner or later.  They can\'t fight this.  They can only live with it and control it.  If they lower their prices, the BUYERS (like me) will return.  It\'s so simple.

Then of course there\'s always the good ol\' FTP system that is still working strong today.  The other possibilities are endless.

Maybe in a perfect world the 5-0\'s wouldn\'t search u w/o a warrant but on Earth they do what they want.  And with the crap that went down on 9-11, police, FBI, and the CIA have all the authority they need to do what they want.

The smart thing to do would be to NOT travel like a "dealer" with your 200 CDRs whether they are legal or not; you\'ll have a hard time coming up w/receipts at airport security booth.

The difference in this situation is that the RIAA *THINKS* they are police and that they have jurisdiction everywhere.  In lots of countries they impose unlawful taxes on CDR sales b/c of jackasses like the RIAA and I for one, can\'t wait until they bust these bastards w/a harrasment suit as long as my schlong.  And that\'s freakin big :worship:

[SirMystiq]

Downloading songs wasn\'t really a taboo until the people up in RIAA with lots of free time in their hands decided to earn back those extra quarters they need to wash their ferrari\'s.

[Living-In-Clip]

And that my Sir, is just ignorant. Downloading songs has always been around in FTP / NewsGroups /IRC and what not. Napster just made it more popular and easier for people with little knowledge of the previous mentioned programs / protocalls. It made it so easy that everyone jumped on and done it. Once the RIAA took notice that their product was being stolen left and right, then everyone came up with the \'fight the man\' attitude. Didn\'t make it more taboo - it just means a bunch of people who think it is the "cool thing to do" jumped on the bandwagon.

[SirMystiq]

Ok you win. But you need to get away from the "cool thing to do" crap. It\'s more of the "cheap thing to do".

I love dumb teen angst (note: Spudz ). You have zero clue about the issue at hand, but it\'s the "cool thing" to do. It\'s a f**kin\' herd menatlity and I\'m sure if everyone jumped off a cliff, you\'d do it also. Hopefully, they will get you for piracy, though I don\'t think it\'d matter, as you are underage and your parents will end up havin\' to pay the lawsuit off.

Hey do I.

I\'d love to see them even try.

You know how many songs are downloaded a day? Using hundreds of programs? Its a slight chance they would bother calling up in Alaska or anything.

:rolleyes:

The cool thing? Jesus you think we are all mindless drones.

L-i-c, im sure its the "cool-thing" to say your doing the "cool-thing".