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« Reply #135 on: April 17, 2004, 05:14:02 PM »
You guys need to get your details straight.

It was called the "Five point palm exploding heart" technique

Also, the character of the woman with the shotgun was not Lisa Wong.  The character was "Karen Kim" who works for Wong.  However, the character\'s real name is probably Karen Wong, Lisa\'s sister, attempting to disguise herself as a Korean.  Confused yet?  :)
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« Reply #136 on: April 17, 2004, 05:39:49 PM »
I guess now is not the idea time to tell you all that there was  A LOT cut for the special edition DVD release, including another entire ANIME sequence and back story...


And Tarintino has already said any Vol 3 he does will actually be about the child who see\'s her mother killed (Verenita) in VOL 1.
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« Reply #137 on: April 17, 2004, 06:14:07 PM »
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It was called the "Five point palm exploding heart" technique

Also, the character of the woman with the shotgun was not Lisa Wong. The character was "Karen Kim" who works for Wong. However, the character\'s real name is probably Karen Wong, Lisa\'s sister, attempting to disguise herself as a Korean. Confused yet?


Just got back from seeing it again and got the details straight.  The actress who plays Karen looks extremely similar to one of the women in the Crazy 88 gang.  The one Beatrix pins up against the pillar.


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I guess now is not the idea time to tell you all that there was A LOT cut for the special edition DVD release, including another entire ANIME sequence and back story...


And Tarintino has already said any Vol 3 he does will actually be about the child who see\'s her mother killed (Verenita) in VOL 1.


That\'s great...but I\'ll be disappointed if Elle Driver is not involved.  The question mark on her name in the credits is just too much to let it go.  

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"Oh yeah, initially I was thinking this would be my \'Dollars\' trilogy. I was going to do a new one every 10 years. But I need at least 15 years before I do this again," the director tells Entertainment Weekly magazine in its April 16 issue.


Tarantino says Uma Thurman (news), who plays a bride out for revenge in the series that began last year, won\'t be the star.

"The star will be Vernita Green\'s (Vivica A. Fox (news)\'s) daughter, Nikki (Ambrosia Kelley). I\'ve already got the whole mythology: Sofie Fatale (Julie Dreyfus) will get all of Bill\'s money. She\'ll raise Nikki, who\'ll take on The Bride," he says. "Nikki deserves her revenge every bit as much as The Bride deserved hers. I might even shoot a couple of scenes for it now so I can get the actresses while they\'re this age."


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Maverick director Quentin Tarantino is planning an animated prequel to his Kill Bill movies - to show the early life of the deadly assassin. The film will be drawn in the Japanese manga style already seen in Kill Bill Volume 1 and will focus on the three men - pimp Estebian Vihaio and martial arts masters Hattori Hanzo and Pei Mai - who turned Bill into a ruthless killer. The Oscar-winning writer and director will write and produce the film. Tarantino has also speculated that he could return to Kill Bill\'s world in 15 years time to follow the daughter of a character killed in the first film. The popular filmmaker - who took five years off after directing Jackie Brown to return to the screen with the violent revenge saga - is next set to direct a segment of Robert Rodriguez and Frank Miller\'s comic book adaptation Sin City.


Good news:)
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« Reply #138 on: April 17, 2004, 07:31:31 PM »
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You guys need to get your details straight.


Don\'t get me involved in that one.  I can\'t get wrong what I never mentioned.  ;)

Also, LiC, I know there was a TON cut from both of these volumes, but that\'s what the super extended hyper special elite DVD edition boxset with gift mug\\sword\\t-shirt and kill bill Q-tips will be for.  It\'s the primary reason why I didn\'t bother buying the DVD released this past Tuesday.  It\'ll be much more worth it to wait a year.
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« Reply #139 on: April 17, 2004, 09:21:00 PM »
Can I also go ahead and burst Ginko\'s bubble on the animated prequel and sequel? As a Tarintino fan, I know that half of what he says and plans never actually happens. What happned to the Vega Brother film? The war film? The gallio film? The list goes on and on. He is always talking about these films he has ready or wanting to make and they never happen. We may see an animated prequel, depending on VOL 2\'s box office take and DVD sales, but we won\'t see a Volume 3.

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« Reply #140 on: April 18, 2004, 03:48:06 AM »
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« Reply #141 on: April 18, 2004, 09:12:30 AM »
No we will never see a VOL.3. IMO that would be incredibly stupid. Dont get my wrong, I loved the movies, but wtf could you do to make a third film work and still be good? Elle - im sorry, but there is no future for her. She has NO EYES! It would be stupid if she got robotic implants and even more lame if she gained some sense so powerful that she didnt need them... Or at least the way i picture it

As for the inconsistent story division with O-Ren vs Vernita, Elle & Budd, I felt somewhat dissapointed by it. I really wanted to see what Budd could do actually. Even if the rest of the characters didnt get a whole lot more story time. I mean, because you can tell that he was pretty ruthless in previous times just do to his dialoge with certain characters. Not only that but he kept the Hanzo sword implying that there was a part of that life that he just couldnt let go of. Thats why i was dissapointed when Elle planted the Black Mamba.

Also, for a second i didnt like the ending, but for some odd reason, the credit parts or actually, showing her driving with the music and in black in white made me actually like it. Id dont know. And what kind of car was it anyways? I know what it is but i cant put a name to it. I want to say its an Alpine but meh....

Since this is getting long ill just say that If they do make a 3rd film then it would have to be about Vernita\'s daughter, and possibly Elle, but thats pushing it.
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« Reply #142 on: April 18, 2004, 10:00:58 AM »
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No we will never see a VOL.3. IMO that would be incredibly stupid. Dont get my wrong, I loved the movies, but wtf could you do to make a third film work and still be good? Elle - im sorry, but there is no future for her. She has NO EYES! It would be stupid if she got robotic implants and even more lame if she gained some sense so powerful that she didnt need them... Or at least the way i picture it


After seeing just half the stunts pulled off in the House of Blue Leaves chapter, or seeing what Pai Mei can do...I don\'t think anything is out of the question as to how things happen.  

It\'s also not unheard of that the other senses get heightened when one is lost.

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« Reply #143 on: April 18, 2004, 10:13:18 AM »
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And what kind of car was it anyways? I know what it is but i cant put a name to it. I want to say its an Alpine but meh....
I think it was a Porsche 356.  

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« Reply #144 on: April 18, 2004, 05:25:26 PM »
Just saw it and I don\'t know..... I am underwhelmed , but I know this is becase it was a different pace.. I watched it and kept thinking the films did not need to be seperate, they would work perfect as one complete film, as Tarintino had originally envisioned...

With that said...My thoughts..

  • Michael Madsen\'s character \'Bud\' was great but wasn\'t handled like I wanted. He was cruel and I wanted to see what he could, but we never did really...We never saw his fighting skill, like we did the other characters.
  • Elle was done perfectly, great fight scene, but I like the idea she was left blind in a trailer with the black mamba snake. I want you to thank about it for a second.... What was Beatrix Kiddo\'s codename? It was \'Black Mamba\'.. What was Elle left in the trailer with? A  black mamba snake. An ironic death for her.
  • Loved the ending...
  • I could tell a lot was cut from the film, not only due to the fact stuff shown in previous trailers was missing, but it just felt chopped at points.. And I can\'t help but be curious as to what the other anime sequence turned out to be.. I guess all that is for the special edition DVD..


Overall, I\'m mixed on it, I will go see it again tommorw most likely and I can\'t wait to see them back to back.

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« Reply #145 on: April 18, 2004, 05:54:56 PM »
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Elle was done perfectly, great fight scene, but I like the idea she was left blind in a trailer with the black mamba snake. I want you to thank about it for a second.... What was Beatrix Kiddo\'s codename? It was \'Black Mamba\'.. What was Elle left in the trailer with? A black mamba snake. An ironic death for her.


Not sure if she\'s dead so I won\'t comment on that...did you notice the name of the chapter?  "Elle and I"  <---- It\'s kinda funny;)

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« Reply #146 on: April 18, 2004, 06:55:04 PM »
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gmanjoe, taunt me all you want, my time is too precious to play yer game.  i\'ll string you along for a little bit untill i grow bored, scamper along now

actually, my girlfriend hated the movie as well.  i looked over at one point because i thought i heard her snoring

and i mentioned at least 5-6 non-kurosawa films in this thread alone you don\'t have the caliber to watch


OMG?! Do you love watching yourself in the mirror while you\'re girlfriend tells you how handsome you are?

Man you have the biggest head when it comes to movies I\'ve ever ...noticed... "Cultured" in cinema? How can you be "cultured" in cinema? You might be "cultured" in the movies you consider the best. I don\'t think watching old kung-fu movies and memorizing the director\'s, actor\'s and name of movie makes you "cultured"


ANYWAYS!!

I\'ve never watched Kill Bill. I saw the trailer at the movies and I thought it was going to be GAY. Then I bought the movie. And I loved it. So freaking awsome. I\'m sooo cultured in movies that I give this movie 10 out of 5 stars. In fact, my cultured ways make me want to bow down to the DVD case of this movie. I loved it. And from what I\'ve read and looked up, Tarantino did his job in making this movie complete with all kinds of old kung-fu, grindhouse styles and plot.

I didn\'t go see the second movie this weeked b/c my girlfriend was gay and hasn\'t seen the first...Till today. So next weekend baby!!!

KILL BILL!! KILL BILL!!!

I heard the second one slows down a bit on the action and goes more into the chit chat...But as long as the plot and story is good I\'ll love it..

And MM not all teenagers are as ignorant and non-"cultured" as you think. I\'m not "cultured" under your definition of watching as many old movies as I possibly can. But I know what makes up a good movie. Swat, Fast and the Furious, The Mummy and so on are good movies. But not ...that good? The Pianist, A beautiful mind, Gladiator, KILL BILL ARE EXCELLENT!!

And no I havent\' watched any Kitrueitislei jiajselrj iaseiliwe movies or "The old and the fashionable" or some Kiri Juritio movies and whatever other movies your "cultured" kind watch.
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« Reply #147 on: April 18, 2004, 07:15:49 PM »
It should be noted that Kill Bill Vol.2 has MM\'s respect, as it features a Johnny Cash song and we all know that means a lot to MM (*points to his comment about \'Dawn of the Dead\' remake getting some respect from him due to it featuring a Cash song) ..

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« Reply #148 on: April 18, 2004, 07:35:14 PM »
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« Reply #149 on: April 18, 2004, 08:01:33 PM »
Pshh...I fixed my signature to accomodate me a little bit better.

Kill Bill!!

Kill Bill!!

Hey has MM ever mentioned what he considered a good movie? B/c by the way he looks at things, the only way a movie could be good is if we brought dead directors from the grave and give them a real low budget and have them make a movie.
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