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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2003, 10:56:17 PM »
The BCS failed because the number one team in the land in both polls is not in the national title game.  It\'s that simple.
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2003, 11:08:22 PM »
And what I\'m saying is I don\'t agree with them being number one in either.

On a sidenote, schedule someone decent if you ever want to be anywhere at the end of the season.
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« Reply #17 on: December 10, 2003, 01:48:13 AM »
You can\'t help how the people in your conference are.  As far as non conference games, they scheduled the preseason number 6 and number 18 teams in Auburn and Notre Dame.  They didn\'t know that both would go on to play awful football.  You don\'t schedule 2 teams ranked that high and expect them to finish a combined 12-12.  And they sure as hell looked a lot better than the teams that LSU scheduled outside of its conference at the season\'s beginning (Louisiana Tech, Louisiana Monroe, Western Illinois, and Arizona).  By comparison to that list, I fail to see how Auburn, Notre Dame, BYU, and Hawaii are that awful.
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« Reply #18 on: December 10, 2003, 04:53:28 AM »
As Shockwaves said.

They didn\'t schedule patsies.

IT just turns out that some of the teams they expected to have decent rankings ended up falling.

LSU doesn\'t have to schedule heavy out of conference games.  They play Auburn, FL, Georgia, Ole Miss, Arkansas....  

I don\'t see where USC\'s schedule is hard anywhere...

The problem is the BCS takes away the streak factor.

IF a team gets hot at the end of the year, the human instinct is to say they are the best team,  The BCS makes every game important.  

As much as it sucks and as much as I hate the BCS I love the controversy because it makes talk radio better.

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I would just love for someone to explain how an 8 team playoff wouldn\'t make bowls more money than they have now.

The extra 10 or so bowls could make their own seperate tournament if they want jus tlike the NIT so they wouldn\'t lose their bowl games.  I mean who in the hell cares about 95% of the bowls?

Florida and Iowa are playing in the Outback Bowl here in town and I wouldn\'t go if you gave me tickets.

They are BORING!!!  I went to the ctirus bowl many years back when FL played Penn State and it blew nuts.  Who gives a shit who wins?  You think anyone remembers who won the Citrus Bowl in 1993?  (Probably Tennessee, hehehe)
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« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2003, 08:57:45 AM »
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the rose bowl belongs to the big 10 and the pac 10.  They should create a seperate national championship bowl and leave the rose bowl alone....it belongs to USSSSSS


They did that for 60 years. It\'s the reason why we HAVE the BCS now, is because of the Pac 10 Big 10 bullshit with the Rose Bowl, and people complaing about #1 and #2 not playing each other.

\'94, Undefeated and #2 Penn State beats up on a crappy Oregon Team, whereas #1 and Undefeated Nebraska plays #3 Miami in the Orange Bowl, Nebraska wins, Nebraska gets the entire National Title, Penn State fans pissed.

\'96, Undefeated and #2 Arizona State goes to the Rose Bowl, only to lose to Ohio State 20-17 behind Joey Germaine, whereas #3 Florida and #1 Florida State play in the Sugar Bowl. Florida wins, and takes home the National Title.

The Rose Bowl is in fact the REASON why we have the BCS.

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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2003, 09:08:21 AM »
Actually we had the BCS with only the 3 bowls for several years before the Rose Bowl came into it.  Or was it not called the BCS then?
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2003, 09:11:20 AM »
Was still called the BCS, but only dealt with the human rankings, no computer stuff. Once the Pac 10 and Big 10 ended their alliance with the Rose Bowl (1999 I think it was), then they threw computers in there to make everything work...right.

Of course, if it wasn\'t for some of those flaws that the Rose Bowl created, we\'d all be fine. Just take the Top 2 teams in the Human polls, make them face each other, and voila. If 2 teams are tied for a certain spot that may make or break the game, go by W-L record against common opponents, things like that, anything that would break the tie.

Ah, it all made sense in the late 90\'s :(

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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2003, 09:18:18 AM »
Bah, everyone was wanting a playoff system in the 90s too.

This crap has never worked except for in the years where it just miraculously fell into place.

Problem is now there are too many freaking bowls.

And the Rose Bowl blows nuts.  Actually I\'ve never been to a Rose Bowl Game so I can\'t really say that.
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2003, 09:29:16 AM »
Everyone has a bowl, jesus and now everyone has a corporate name tagged on too, who gives a flying f*ck if the Tostito\'s Fiesta bowl, or the bank one ... bowl or noka sugar bowl, I just want to see the a playoff system that way the 2 real top teams could shine and show there testicular fortitude or belly up like most shitty teams do.

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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2003, 12:02:20 PM »
I don\'t know.  I think personally you keep the bowls.  However, while all the lesser bowls are going on you run an 8 team playoff type thing.  1 vs 8, 2 vs 7, 3 vs 6 and 4 vs 5 one week, then the winners (1 vs 4 and 2 vs 3 assuming no upsets) and the losers (5 vs 8, 6 vs 7) play after that.    Then, that sets up 4 matchups, one for first, one for third, one for fifth, and one for seventh.  Then you put those matchups in the 4 BCS bowls.  Only takes 2 weeks while all the other bowls are being played to decide it, you can keep the bowls already present, and there is then an undisputed champ.  That\'s how I would do it if it were me.  Keep a lot of the tradition...just add a couple of games in there to prevent all this bullshit controversy.
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« Reply #25 on: December 10, 2003, 12:13:24 PM »
I agree.  Let\'s do it.
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« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2003, 12:50:30 PM »
You can\'t always help who you schedule but when they suck don\'t cry, and most definently don\'t lose. (Cal)

As for a playoff system, that isn\'t what college football is about and I think that would ruin it some.
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« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2003, 01:02:30 PM »
I can see it ruining it some, yeah.  As it is now it\'s like the entire season is a playoff.  Oh well.

If you don\'t have a playoff though, I think it\'s clear that the BCS has to go.  Let the humans decide things :)
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« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2003, 01:19:21 PM »
I don\'t se how it could ruin anything at all.  What is there to ruin?  a game pitting 2 v 3 to see who should be #1...  Um yeah, I\'d hate to ruin that.
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« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2003, 01:36:38 PM »
It\'d ruin the sense of importance of the games the rest of the season.  It\'d make it so that a 2...or maybe even a 3 loss team could have a shot at the title.
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