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« on: December 16, 2003, 04:03:49 PM »
I know this has been discussed before, not nessicarily at the forums but in the world.

It is about the universe.

Now here is what is thought of the universe by most people and scientists. Apparently it is just a never ending stretch of absolute nothing, rather planets, stars, moons etc.

But can the human mind imagine infinity? That is to say, is infinity even possible, physically and mentally. When you think about it, only a few things are infinity, and only from that a technicality. Everything else in the world has an ending. A song, a street, a moment, a life.

But this is where the universe comes in. Do you think it is possible for it to go on? This is forever, their is no stop, no circle nothing. It is forever. Do not say you can comprehend this idea, the relativity of infinity that is, because it is impossible.

I am hoping for a serious, and well debated subject. Please, mods I ask for your assistance in keeping this thread tidy. I really am quite baffled by this infinity issue.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2003, 04:04:56 PM »
Obviously you haven\'t taken Calculus yet...
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2003, 04:07:37 PM »
I read somewhere that ine ice skating the human body is physically capable of doing like 8 revolutions in the air before landing.  Now they do  what, 4?  

We have lots to learn.


PS: I have no clue what this has to do with the topic other than we have lots to learn.

I\'m an idiot.
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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2003, 04:09:55 PM »
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Obviously you haven\'t taken Calculus yet...

Please delete mod. Also, you think numbers can determine something as vast as the universe? No.

Yes, we do have alot to learn, but we can make assumptions upon the facts we do know, although very little, the human body as a whole appears to know "alot".

BTW: Please mods, I beg of you to help keep this topic rational. And I am expecting no bashing, we havent had a good clean topic at these forums for a while.

BTWx2: Bossieman hopefully he comes around, I am anxious to see his opinion on this.
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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2003, 05:11:06 PM »
Why delete? I was being dead serious...

You\'re concept of "infinite" is simply a definition, whereas mine is an actual concept. Believe me, I\'m not claiming to be some math wiz, but after a year and a half of Calculus concepts I have a better grasp on the idea of infinite.

Infinite is infinite. Never-ending. Never beginning.

Thats my answer to your extremely vague question.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2003, 07:57:09 PM »
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Why delete? I was being dead serious...

You\'re concept of "infinite" is simply a definition, whereas mine is an actual concept. Believe me, I\'m not claiming to be some math wiz, but after a year and a half of Calculus concepts I have a better grasp on the idea of infinite.

Infinite is infinite. Never-ending. Never beginning.

Thats my answer to your extremely vague question.

Then you could say that Infinite is impossible because how do you have no beginning? Is it possible? Its hard to imagine that the universe just stops but then how does it continue? Infinite in a physical reality is an anomaly that nobody will ever figure out im sure. If you can prove infinite exists in the physical world then you could also argue, that if there is no beginning then its possible that there is a god. Im not saying its not.

I dont know. I thought i was saying something...
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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2003, 08:00:50 PM »
In calculus you throw around the term infinite quite often so I know where di is coming from, but as far as being able to rationalize that into thought, I\'m not sure.  Too much unknown for people to ponder.  Very few people probably grasp the concept enough to theorize the possibilities.
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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2003, 09:23:17 PM »
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In calculus you throw around the term infinite quite often so I know where di is coming from, but as far as being able to rationalize that into thought, I\'m not sure


Exactly. It\'s almost just like a variable.
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2003, 10:45:06 PM »
Infinite=endless

What is there to "wonder" about. Technically everything is finite...when you die. When this galaxy ends, there won\'t be any more "infinite" because unless aliens exist, the word "infinite" will have no value on our universe.
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« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2003, 05:45:29 AM »
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Infinite=endless

What is there to "wonder" about. Technically everything is finite...when you die. When this galaxy ends, there won\'t be any more "infinite" because unless aliens exist, the word "infinite" will have no value on our universe.


that\'s the crappiest bullshit I\'ve ever heard.....
please explain to me why aliens are necessary for infinity to exist!
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« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2003, 06:11:16 AM »
I can\'t offer any insight on the subject but this link is rather interesting...

Perpetual Creation & Annihilation

I\'m not sure what you were talking about when you said "no circle nothing."  The circle represents infinity quite well...no beginning and no end.  Moving along the circle represents creation and right behind it is annihilation...think in terms of billions and trillions of years though.
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« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2003, 08:45:43 AM »
Why is it impossible for us to grasp the concept of infinity?

Also, who said infinity has to have no beginning?
« Last Edit: December 17, 2003, 08:47:03 AM by Black Samurai »
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« Reply #12 on: December 17, 2003, 10:05:46 AM »
Infinity and beyond...i am confused...i thought the universe is big, but not infinite, it\'s still expanding...shrug...don\'t know.
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« Reply #13 on: December 17, 2003, 10:41:55 AM »
Infinite = imeasurable

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« Reply #14 on: December 17, 2003, 10:48:58 AM »
Infinitely Small = Imeasurable
Infinitely Large = Imeasurable

Infinitely Small != Infinitely Large
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