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« Reply #45 on: January 01, 2004, 12:15:39 AM »
Ummm correct me if I\'m wrong but the killing can be staged, it just has to be real...
Wrong. There are two other people who can.
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« Reply #46 on: January 01, 2004, 12:47:08 AM »
No, but people like LIC are saying they own/have seen videos with people dieing etc on them. These are not considered snuff because they aren\'t staged, but are classed as being accidents (if I am getting the drift) so how do people come to film these accidents?

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« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2004, 06:44:58 AM »
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so how do people come to film these accidents?


I decided to look up an interview with the guy who made the first four from the series we\'re calling "Faces." (Name changed to appease Sammy ;))

"I\'ll never forget: All of a sudden on the news one night they\'re talking about Faces!" says John Schwartz, who directed and wrote the movie and its sequels I through IV (there are now eight Faces movies). The flick was intended as a Japanese-only release in 1979, but found its way to the United States, and the national news, a couple of years later.

"I almost fell out of my chair," says Schwartz in a phone interview. "Dan Rather on CBS was talking about these "incredibly horrible videos.\' \'Cause everybody thought they were real!"

If anybody thinks Faces is footage of actual deaths, it\'s because it says so on the video\'s box, right under the cheesy drawing of the hooded skull with the forked tongue and fangs. Schwartz and company did film real footage of slaughterhouses and autopsy rooms, but any other "real" deaths came from file footage.

"We traveled to all these different film libraries to see what we could find about death and disaster," says Schwartz. "I found this footage of this woman jumping off a building, and it was just incredible footage. But the part of the footage we didn\'t have was the aftermath. So we (filmed) inserts into the actual footage to match it."

Then how did Schwartz and company acquire the more bizarre footage? "I was the leader of the flesh-eating cult," Schwart admits. "I had scenes in each of these movies. . . . I\'m the crazy, drugged-out killer. . . . I play this freaky rapist in the courtroom scene, and they show the rape on video, and it just so happens that the girl (in the rape scene) was this girl I was dating at the time."

You mean, the famous electric chair scene was fake? But the guy was foaming at the mouth and everything!

"We built a cell in a friend\'s loft, and we lined the guy\'s mouth with toothpaste," says Schwartz, laughing. "My research material for that: I happened to pick up a Hustler magazine and there was this great article about electrocution that really detailed how a person is executed. . . . And that\'s what I used as my basis."


Well there you have it.  Kind of waters down that series, doesn\'t it? Says the original cost $450,000 to make and has grossed $30 million to date.

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« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2004, 10:37:35 AM »
Racer, to answer your question - people carry videocamera\'s. There is websites with war footage and things like that.

The idea behind a true snuff film is a death and rape filmed for a buyer.

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« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2004, 02:57:04 PM »
^^

a buyer as in a single person? Expensive.

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« Reply #50 on: January 01, 2004, 03:03:23 PM »
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^^

a buyer as in a single person? Expensive.


Yes.  A single buyer.


It really isn\'t that hard to believe. How often do you hear about some rich guy / girl paying someone to kill their spouse? Now, just take that rich person, have them pay someone to  kill a stranger and tape it. Wa-la. You have a snuff film.

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« Reply #51 on: January 01, 2004, 05:31:30 PM »
LIC is right.

And they are real, at least to my knowledge.

My uncle owns some that where filmed a while ago. Ive only seen a minute or two of one. But I can say it is real, and quite disturbing.
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« Reply #52 on: January 02, 2004, 08:27:17 PM »
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LIC is right.

And they are real, at least to my knowledge.

My uncle owns some that where filmed a while ago. Ive only seen a minute or two of one. But I can say it is real, and quite disturbing.


I have serious doubts your uncle owns a true snuff film. I have a feeling you have not read the definition of a actual snuff film.

That is, unless you are saying...

(1) Your uncle pays to see women raped and killed..

(2) Your uncle has video of this and is withholding evidence.

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« Reply #53 on: January 03, 2004, 01:44:57 AM »
I guess Ive never told you the story of my uncle, have I LIC.

It seems farfetched, but I swear upon it.

He is 52 years old, and is basically a skinhead. He collects Nazi memorbelia, weapons of sorts, books of witchcraft etc. He recites Nietzsche whenever I see him.

Well, basically he worships Hitler, and believes that he had kin, and they are still alive.

He bought a snuff film from one of his fathers friend that sells various illegal products.

Honestly, I dont know if its real or not. I just saw it and it looked real. but I cant say details, I would be happy to PM them.

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(2) Your uncle has video of this and is withholding evidence.

Evidence, not sure. It easily couldve been leaked through media, which happens in a large majority of cases that have video footage, photographs, or audio material as evidence.
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« Reply #54 on: January 03, 2004, 01:51:53 AM »
I think thats creepy and morbid, people call me whacked for being Christain, but to worship Hitler? Man thats sad.

Anyway, I guess now that I think about it, true snuff would have to exist, I mean, its only logical, but I doubt its the sort of thing that would get widely sold, or am I wrong?

If you asked someone to murder and rape ur wife, and get them to tape it, its unlikely you would show anyone else that tape, unless your totally nuts.

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« Reply #55 on: January 03, 2004, 01:58:17 AM »
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but I doubt its the sort of thing that would get widely sold, or am I wrong?

No, of course it wouldn\'t be widely sold. Then there wouldn\'t be all that mystery behind it. Besides, true snuff movies are helluva illegal, not to mention expensive. So it\'s not exactly something you\'d go brag about having.
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« Reply #56 on: January 03, 2004, 01:58:48 AM »
Well its basically on a higher scale of homemade pornos.

They are quite mainstream, and look how easy they are to make.
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« Reply #57 on: January 03, 2004, 02:03:35 AM »
(e) your uncle is a skinhead, how pathetic to worship hitler.  That\'s probably the one of the most pathetic things to do, worship hitler and his shitty lowlife imbecile doings.

just my 2 cents.

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« Reply #58 on: January 03, 2004, 10:10:41 AM »
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I guess Ive never told you the story of my uncle, have I LIC.

It seems farfetched, but I swear upon it.

He is 52 years old, and is basically a skinhead. He collects Nazi memorbelia, weapons of sorts, books of witchcraft etc. He recites Nietzsche whenever I see him.

Well, basically he worships Hitler, and believes that he had kin, and they are still alive.

He bought a snuff film from one of his fathers friend that sells various illegal products.

Honestly, I dont know if its real or not. I just saw it and it looked real. but I cant say details, I would be happy to PM them.


Evidence, not sure. It easily couldve been leaked through media, which happens in a large majority of cases that have video footage, photographs, or audio material as evidence.



Not surprised. I had a great uncle who was in WW2 and developed a fetish for "blood pudding". No joke. Apparently it was something the soliders was shown by the germans. Take blood, make it into pudding and eat it. He\'d kill his cows and drain the blood and do it. Very gross stuff.

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« Reply #59 on: January 03, 2004, 01:27:16 PM »
^^

They have sasauges like that though don\'t they? like those black ones. Yuck.

We aren\'t talking human blood though are we LIC?

 

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