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« on: January 21, 2004, 01:02:52 PM »
i was just farting around on the internet when i came across this..it\'s called the voting rights act. it seems it was created in 1965 which gives blacks the right to vote. But the funny thing is that they vote for blacks to have this right every so many years & whatnot. I\'ve heard of this before but never really got too much into it because you\'d think after all this time the u.s. gov\'t would let go of some of it\'s old ways.

why the F**k should they vote on whether we have the right to vote or not? that\'s bullsh*t. the attorney general is the one who has to sign off on it, and i don\'t think there will ever be a day where he states "naw i think black people should lose the right to vote.

they are going to REVIEW the staute again in 2007. but my thing is this..why do we need that in the first place? If we are supposedly citazens (spell) why vote on that? i\'m sure you don\'t have them voting on whether white people rights should be taken!...meh only in america.

ps: i have to stress this.. hopefully you guys know i\'am in no-way shape or form racist towards anybody. i know how some members might see the title & be like "oh boy another black person upset because he feels he\'s being held down by the man!:rolleyes:"  but i assure you that is not the case,..i just wanted to know if anybody was aware of this ;)
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« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2004, 01:50:36 PM »
Is this even an issue?  Could you imagine being the politician to go against it?  That would be political suicide.

Almost like, "I don\'t like them mexican fellers votin\' neither."
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2004, 01:57:09 PM »
Where is the link for this?  Also, a vast majority of Americans (white, black, etc..) never vote anyway, if they took away any  groups right to vote, how many would even know or care?
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2004, 02:08:03 PM »
heh i don\'t know how to link sites but while i was on the site this is what was in the address box

http/www.rpi.edu/dept/union/bsa/publichtm/wwwboard/messages/121.html

i know it\'s long but thats what it read
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2004, 03:25:56 PM »
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Where is the link for this?  Also, a vast majority of Americans (white, black, etc..) never vote anyway, if they took away any  groups right to vote, how many would even know or care?


I think that is beside the point. It\'s a waste of tax money, valueable time and goverment effort to actually re-vote on something that should not be an issue.

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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2004, 04:45:47 PM »
This should definitely not be an issue we spend money on.
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« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2004, 06:38:52 PM »
Some people are so gullible... if its on the internet it must be true :rolleyes:

Another Internet hoax made headlines today as the media got wind of reactions among black Americans to a widely-forwarded email message claiming their voting rights will vanish in the year 2007. Similar rumors have circulated since the mid-1990s.

The current email version reads as follows:


PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS YOU CAN!!!!
We are quickly approaching the 21st Century and I was wondering if anyone out there knew what the significance of the year 2007 is to Black America? Did you know that our right to vote will expire in the year 2007? Seriously! The Voters Rights Act signed in 1965 by Lyndon B. Johnson was just an ACT.

It was not made a law. In 1982 Ronald Reagan amended the Voters Rights Act for only another 25 years. Which means that in the year 2007 we could lose the right to vote!

Does anyone realize that Blacks/African Americans are the only group of people who still require PERMISSION under the United States Constitution to vote?!

In the year 2007 Congress will once again convene to decide whether or not Blacks should retain the right to vote (crazy, but true). In order for this to be passed, 38 states will have to approve an extension.

In my opinion and many others, this is ludicrous! Not only should the extension be approved, but ... this Act must be made a law. Our right to vote should no longer be up for discussion, review and/or evaluation.

We must contact our Congress persons, Senators, Alderpersons, etc., to put a stop to this! As bona fide citizens of the United States, we cannot "drop the ball" on this one!

We have come too far to let government make us take such a huge step backward. So please, let us push forward to continue to build the momentum towards gaining equality. Please pass this onto others, as I am sure that many more individuals are not aware of this.

The kernel of truth in the above is that the Voting Rights Act of 1965 will indeed expire (i.e., come up for renewal) in the year 2007. But the rest is false. African Americans\' right to vote is guaranteed in the Bill of Rights and will not expire with the Voting Rights Act.

The NAACP addressed the issue in a statement published in the Nov. 19, 1998 issue of the Internet Tourbus:

African American voting rights were granted by the Fifteenth Amendment, which was passed immediately after the Civil War. Expiration of the Voting Rights Act will not terminate the rights granted under the Fifteenth Amendment.
The U.S. Department of Justice concurs. In its "Voting Rights Act Clarification" dated April 2, 1998, it states:

The basic prohibition against discrimination in voting contained in the Fifteenth amendment and in the Voting Rights Act does not expire in 2007 — it does not expire at all; it is permanent.
The confusion apparently arises from an assumption that it\'s the Voting Rights Act alone which guarantees suffrage to minorities. In reality, all the Act does is keep in place a set of so-called "extraordinary remedies" designed to enforce the Fifteenth Amendment at state and local levels, where, in defiance of federal law, obstacles to black voting rights were still in place in some parts of the country as of 1965. The remedies, designed only to address problems existing at the time, were intended all along to be temporary, which is why the Voting Rights Act is set to expire if not renewed every 25 years.

It\'s impossible to determine exactly where and when the rumor got started, though Internet discussions in early 1997 made reference to the future of black voting rights being raised as an issue on the Tom Joyner radio talk show then. A Usenet posting dated January 24, 1997 reads like a precursor of the text now raising hackles in the black community.

"I\'d say we have gotten hundreds of calls on this over the past two years," Rep. James Clyburn of South Carolina told reporters this week. "It\'s frustrating dealing with this hoax."

I thought I was the only one who had days like that.

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/weekly/aa120298.htm


So much for this useless thread...  I didn\'t think this was true.  Yes I took Con Law in college.


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« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2004, 07:20:11 PM »
not too long ago, blacks were only 7/8th of a person

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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2004, 07:42:38 PM »
Only in America?

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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2004, 09:08:46 PM »
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not too long ago, blacks were only 7/8th of a person

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You mean 3/5ths right?
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« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2004, 09:13:55 PM »
Voting is a right, not a privelage. No Ands, Buts or Hoax about it. It\'s a right. Even inmates in prison vote.

As long as you are an American Citizen, that is. If not, you have no right to vote. None. :)
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2004, 09:29:33 PM »
7/8th\'s....3/5th\'s

i was being generous
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2004, 05:16:04 AM »
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Voting is a right, not a privelage. No Ands, Buts or Hoax about it. It\'s a right. Even inmates in prison vote.

As long as you are an American Citizen, that is. If not, you have no right to vote. None. :)


WRONG - if you are convicted of a felony and are serving a sentence you do not have the right to vote.  After you serve your sentence you MAY get your right to vote back.  

This whole thread is based on a hyped up twisting of the truth.  Blacks won\'t lose their right to vote and the only thing that is going to expire is the Voters Act of 1965 which made sure blacks could vote.  In the South during the 60\'s, even though blacks  were "allowed" vote, the good old boy system made sure they didn\'t vote - thus the reason you have the Voters Act.  It is an obsolete law in the year 2004, but back when it was created they had no way of knowing what the state of civil rights would be in this country approx 40 years later.  

This Act actually was for the benefit of blacks and now it has been twisted around into something its not.  It was put in place to protect their right, not take it away when it expired.
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« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2004, 03:55:07 AM »
Sounds like Al Sharpton is at it again

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« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2004, 05:05:54 AM »
I thought it was Conspiracy Brother from the movie Undercover Brother ;)
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