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What is the English equivalence of this?
« on: January 29, 2004, 02:20:45 PM »
I have been searching and searching, but I cant find the English word that is used to describe this.

In Swedish its “blånering”. Its something you usually do to the barrel of a weapon or to the blade of a knife, so it wont rust.
As far as I understand, you heat up the metal, and apply some sort of oil that leaves this surface. Its dark greyish/black, sometimes kind of blue.

Some pictures so you can see what I mean.

Here a bayonet, the shaft and the sheath is “blånerad”. You can see its worn.


This pistol can be bought in two versions, “blånerad” (like the picture) or stainless steel (I reckon its shiny/silverish then).


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« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2004, 02:49:54 PM »
I think we just call it gun metal grey
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« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2004, 02:58:15 PM »
Ah, now I got it (thanks to Greven), its Bluing! BLUING!! *goes crazy*
Its like a direct translation.

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I think we just call it gun metal grey


That is another word for it I believe, thanks for your suggestion. :)


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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2004, 08:55:39 PM »
i think what you talking about is also called anodizing
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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2004, 04:35:58 AM »
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i think what you talking about is also called anodizing


Nope.

Anodizing is an electrochemical coating applied to metal (think those cool colored aluminum bike parts or something...)

Bluing involves using bluing salts on steel with heat...
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« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2004, 03:11:51 PM »
There seems to be two methods, one that involves heat, and one where you use paste.. You put it on the surface and after it had dried you wipe it off, repeat a few times to get the right colour.

I haven’t decided on what method to choose yet, paste sounds easier, but the end result might not be as good as the one where you use heat.

Im going to check and see if the “weapon-dealer” has any of these Bluing Liquid/Paste products tomorrow.
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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2004, 04:51:33 PM »
I would go for the bluing w/bluing salts & heat... You get much better results..

What are you bluing?

check this out...

http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29972&highlight=bluing
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2004, 05:55:55 PM »
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I would go for the bluing w/bluing salts & heat... You get much better results..

What are you bluing?

check this out...

http://forums.swordforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29972&highlight=bluing


Thanks, some very useful tips on that forum :)

Im bluing a old worn bayonet.
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« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2004, 08:30:06 PM »
which bayonet do you have?
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2004, 04:26:24 AM »
Its a 1942 German bayonet.

Like this one


He has polished away the bluing, it should be almost black (even parts of the blade).
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2004, 05:09:50 AM »
sweet.. i had one of those...

Any reason why you are interested in re-bluing it? I often thought that leaving historical artefacts in their original state was more interesting. Also, I know that people who bring old coins into where I work get less money for them if they are cleaned or polished...
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2004, 10:40:53 AM »
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sweet.. i had one of those...

Any reason why you are interested in re-bluing it? I often thought that leaving historical artefacts in their original state was more interesting. Also, I know that people who bring old coins into where I work get less money for them if they are cleaned or polished...


The quality was not very good when I got it, the sheath was in a pretty bad shape, very rusty.

The bayonet itself is pretty nice, I had to polish it somewhat from old rust. That is the part Im going to blue, plus the blade.

I don’t expect Im going to sell it, and there are other bayonets like it that are in much better shape. So I might as well make the better of it and try to restore it. :)

Im going to order (since the weapon-dealer didn’t have any), Birchwood Casey Perma Blue Liquid Gun Blue or Super Blue Liquid Gun Blue (since the original bluing on the bayonet was very dark).
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