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« on: March 15, 2004, 08:54:45 PM »
I have a Hitachi Harddrive with 180 Gbytes of space.  It comes with a paper that said  it will read only as 137 GBytes instead of 180 Gbytes.   The paper said to go to http://www.hgst.com/support for help to make it read in it correct 180 Gbytes.

But the site didn\'t really help much.  I got confuse in the whole process figuring out how to make it read as 180 Gbytes.

It said this on the paper, "possible solutions for the 137 GB limitation include operating system patches, 3rd party hardware or BIOS upgrade."

so anybody here know how to do those stuff here?  It would suck to have a hard drive wasted over 50 GB of memories.

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« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2004, 09:00:13 PM »
bios update for your motherboard and try windows update.
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« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2004, 09:17:04 PM »
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ummm....how?

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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2004, 09:25:35 PM »
go to your motherboard site.. download hte latest bios for your motherboard and the util to flash it most if not all motherboard websites have.  Then flash your bios.


If you\'re not sure. Tell me your motherboard manufature and type etc and i\'ll find the bios for your and the util you need to use.
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2004, 01:15:10 AM »
It should be noted that if you are not comfortable updating your BIOS find someone who can do it, because you can render your motherboard useless if you somehow manage to screw it up. With that said, it is extremely simple as long as you follow the instructions.

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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2004, 06:20:20 AM »
Depends on what kind of harddrive controller you have on your MoBo. First, take a look in your bios at startup (Pushing either Esc, del or F1, whichever it says) and see if the bios recognises the drive as a 160gb drive. If not you need to upgrade the bios firmware, let\'s hope this won\'t be necessary as it can be pretty scary if you don\'t have experience with it. Secondly, if it detects the harddrive as a 160gb drive, but only as a 137gb drive in windows, you\'ve probably got a windows version older than win xp sp1. SP1 for XP fixes this issue for hdds larger than 137gb.

Look closely when you startup and see which hdd controller you have. Most likely Promise or one of the other big hdd controller manufacturers. Then go to the company\'s website and download a controller for drives bigger than 137 gb in windows. Or alternatively install winxp with sp1 if you can.
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Little update:
Here\'s what I found on Hitachi\'s support pages:
Explains a little more in detail what I said earlier.
Why doesn\'t my system see the full capacity of my 137GB+ drive? What is the 137GB (128GB binary) hard drive capacity limitation?

When the ATA disk drive interface (also known as IDE) was developed in the mid 1980’s, personal computer disk drives held 20 Megabytes of data. ATA was designed with 28 bits of address, providing what seemed like a ridiculously large address space: 137,438,953,472 bytes (137 Gigabytes). Nearly 20 years later, ATA drives are available with a capacity greater than 137 Gigabytes.

To allow computer systems access all the data on drives larger than 137 Gigabytes, the T13 AT Attachment standards committee developed a new 48-bit addressing method. This method increases the address space by approximately a million fold to: 144,115,188,075,855,872 bytes (144 Petabytes).

Computer systems manufactured before development of the 48-bit address method do not support drives larger than 137GB (but can, if upgraded as described below). With some past drive capacity limitations, updating the BIOS alone solved the problem. Upgrading the BIOS doesn\'t hurt, but this by itself won\'t solve the problem unless your OS supports 48-bit addressing or you have a controller card and driver that supports 48-bit addressing.

If you\'ve recently purchased your computer system, we advise you to check with your manufacturer to see if your system has native support for 48-bit addressing before pursuing one of the workarounds listed below. If you\'ve already installed your drive and the capacity is listed as 137,438,953,472 bytes (137GB or 128GB), you\'ll need to follow one of the workarounds below to make use of the remaining space.

Note: In binary, a gigabyte is equal to 1024 megabytes, and a 137GB hard drive capacity is expressed as 128GB. So, when experiencing this capacity limitation, you may see the top capacity listed as 128GB when using a BIOS or type of software that displays the rounded binary capacity.


There are several approaches available, depending on your OS (and Chipset), when adding large disk drives to older systems:


Windows XP: Update the Operating System

Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1) adds 48-bit addressing support for drive capacities greater than 137GB. The boot partition can\'t be greater than 137GB during a fresh install (since you\'ll need to install Windows XP before you can apply the service pack), even if the controller BIOS supports the full capacity. After installing the service pack to your master drive, follow the Microsoft Knowledge Base directions for making the necessary registry modifications. (Note: do not make the registry modifications before installing the service pack; it won\'t work.). You will then be able to partition the remaining space (using Disk Management) on the master drive or install and partition a slave at the full value. The boot drive must have more than one partition. However, if Windows XP Service Pack 1 (SP1) has been applied and configured on the boot drive, you can partition subsequent non-boot drives (e.g., a slave) to their full capacity. For details, see the Microsoft Knowledge Base (article #303013).

Windows 2000: Update the Operating System

Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 (SP3) adds 48-bit addressing support for drive capacities greater than 137GB. The boot partition cannot be greater than 137GB during a fresh install (since you\'ll need to install Windows 2000 before you can apply the service pack), even if the controller BIOS supports the full capacity. After installing the service pack to your master drive, follow the Microsoft Knowledge Base directions for making the necessary registry modifications. (Note: do not make the registry modifications before installing the service pack; it won\'t work.). You will then be able to partition the remaining space (using Disk Management) on the master drive or install and partition a slave at the full value. The boot drive must have more than one partition. However, if Windows 2000 Service Pack 3 (SP3) has been applied and configured on the boot drive, you can partition subsequent non-boot drives (e.g., a slave) to their full capacity. For details, see the Microsoft Knowledge Base (article #305098).

Windows 95sr2/ 98/ Me/ NT: Add in a new ATA controller card and driver with 48-bit addressing support

Some ATA adapter card manufacturers are:


Adapter manufacturer: Web site: Operating System(s):
ACARD Technology http://www.acard.com/ PC Mac
HighPoint Technologies http://www.highpoint-tech.com/ PC
Promise Technology, Inc. http://www.promise.com/  
SIIG, Inc. http://www.siig.com PC Mac

Additionally, Intel has a program available for users of certain Pentium 4 chipsets that resolves the 137GB capacity limitation called the Intel Application Accelerator. This download is provided at the Intel site, along with how-to information.

Note: The list of 3rd parties above is provided for reference only and is not a recommendation of any product by Hitachi Global Storage Technologies. You should always check for compatibility and other issues with third party products, and we do not make any warranties about the use of those other products.

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Good luck.
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« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2004, 02:10:18 PM »
ummm...mine is actually 180 GBytes, but it doesn\'t matter if it\'s 160 or 180...

the Brand is ECS Elitegroup
model is L4VXA2

their website is
http://www.ecs.com.tw

so, soulgrind...what is my next step?

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« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2004, 02:20:33 PM »
Nevermind, I just check the bios and it correctly read as 185 GBytes.  So that means, the motherboard recognize it as 185.

So, it seem like the my Windows XP need some update...

any help on that would be appreciated.

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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2004, 05:16:16 AM »
Are you running Service Pack 1? Because, if I remember correctly, XP SP1 added support for HD\'s over the 137 (?) limit.

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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2004, 07:28:22 AM »
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Are you running Service Pack 1? Because, if I remember correctly, XP SP1 added support for HD\'s over the 137 (?) limit.


Yes, I already mentioned that in my post above if anyone cared to read it....

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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2004, 02:01:53 PM »
oh....sorry JP....its just your was too long to read.....

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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2004, 03:29:07 PM »
Well, I didn\'t read Jp\'s post because it was simply to large and copied and pasted. I like direct to the point posts. No offense, to Jp of course.

Either way - are you running SP1, Paul2? If not - then my guess is that is your problem.

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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2004, 07:12:12 PM »
LIC (lick),
well, no.  I am not running service pack 1.  I wonder how long it take to download it since i am a 56k User.

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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2004, 08:37:58 PM »
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LIC (lick),
well, no.  I am not running service pack 1.  I wonder how long it take to download it since i am a 56k User.



There\'s your problem and have fun, I am also a 56k user.

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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2004, 09:46:42 PM »
LIC is a mod and a 56k user...:eek:

did i just say something?:surprised

 

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