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« Reply #435 on: June 12, 2004, 05:55:27 PM »
File this one under who gives a crap.

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« Reply #436 on: June 12, 2004, 07:46:58 PM »
...what happened to not caring, Vid?

Now, you couldn\'t possibly have swayed, right? :)

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« Reply #437 on: June 12, 2004, 08:00:39 PM »
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Well too a certain degree I agree with you. I just don\'t see darko ever being as good as melo. I don\'t see him being a great NBA player .  I could be wrong and he could turn out to be a superstar.



And he is not even the same league as oneal. Oneal always had telent.

And even if they had drafted melo they still have prince coming off the bench. So they lose nothing but gain a future superstar.  I think he would fit good with pistons especially when they go to those long stretches where they cannot score.

There is noway in god green earth carmelo anthony would have not started. Come on shocky the kid is awesome.

I being a detroit fan for one hope darko turns out to be good.


P.S. Shut up luke


Are you saying that Darko doesn\'t have talent?

Also, don\'t put it past Larry Brown not to start a rookie, especially for a guy like Melo that, granted, did get a year of College in, but\'s only what, 20 years old?

You as a Pistons fan should know that Larry Brown is a pretty old school coach. It\'s just goona take some time for Darko to get his feet under him. Evaluating Darko right now would be like evaluating Kobe Bryant or Kevin Garnett in their first years in the NBA straight out of High School. Those guys right now (despite the fact that I believe that Kobe Bryant is scum) are great basketball players, but it took time. Those guys were drafted 7 years ago, which is a pretty good maturing process, and both of them are only about 25, 26 years old. Basically, just give Darko some time to mature. I think you\'ll like the results -- besides, the whole big man plauge in the Eastern Conference should help him grow even faster.

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« Reply #438 on: June 12, 2004, 09:54:06 PM »
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Are you saying that Darko doesn\'t have talent?

Also, don\'t put it past Larry Brown not to start a rookie, especially for a guy like Melo that, granted, did get a year of College in, but\'s only what, 20 years old?

You as a Pistons fan should know that Larry Brown is a pretty old school coach. It\'s just goona take some time for Darko to get his feet under him. Evaluating Darko right now would be like evaluating Kobe Bryant or Kevin Garnett in their first years in the NBA straight out of High School. Those guys right now (despite the fact that I believe that Kobe Bryant is scum) are great basketball players, but it took time. Those guys were drafted 7 years ago, which is a pretty good maturing process, and both of them are only about 25, 26 years old. Basically, just give Darko some time to mature. I think you\'ll like the results -- besides, the whole big man plauge in the Eastern Conference should help him grow even faster.

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Jamas knows what he is talking about.  Larry Brown is very old school and against playing rookies even if they are ready.  He likes to take a quiet approach to them and help them out more in weekly practices than rather giving them game time experience.  In this way, they will be ready to compete right away without suffering major confidence woes like Kobe, Garnett, Harrington, O\'neal, and T-Mac had.
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« Reply #439 on: June 13, 2004, 06:41:42 AM »
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Jamas knows what he is talking about.  Larry Brown is very old school and against playing rookies even if they are ready.  He likes to take a quiet approach to them and help them out more in weekly practices than rather giving them game time experience.  In this way, they will be ready to compete right away without suffering major confidence woes like Kobe, Garnett, Harrington, O\'neal, and T-Mac had.


James may know what he is talking about but in a the real world there is noway melo would not start. He was such a huge player for the Nba. He brought in so much revenue for the NBA there is noway a guy  huge as he was this season would ride the bench.

The guy took a nothing franchise and made it something and there already dubbing him and bron the next bird and magic.
There is not a chance he would not start.
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« Reply #440 on: June 13, 2004, 12:00:48 PM »
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« Reply #441 on: June 13, 2004, 01:55:24 PM »
I dont see why the Pistons wouldn\'t try to do everything in their power to keep Rasheed Wallace on their team after this season.  He gave them such a big lift.  I think they have only lost 12 or so games since he joined the team.

As for Darko, I think he needs a couple more seasons, guys like Sheed and Ben Wallace will be able to help him a lot because they are both very good players.
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« Reply #442 on: June 13, 2004, 06:30:34 PM »
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Well too a certain degree I agree with you. I just don\'t see darko ever being as good as melo. I don\'t see him being a great NBA player .  I could be wrong and he could turn out to be a superstar.



And he is not even the same league as oneal. Oneal always had telent.

And even if they had drafted melo they still have prince coming off the bench. So they lose nothing but gain a future superstar.  I think he would fit good with pistons especially when they go to those long stretches where they cannot score.

There is noway in god green earth carmelo anthony would have not started. Come on shocky the kid is awesome.

I being a detroit fan for one hope darko turns out to be good.


P.S. Shut up luke


You have no idea what Darko is or isn\'t right now.  You haven\'t seen him play more than a couple of minutes at a time.  It takes a bit to get into a game, and more importantly, to get used to playing big time games.  Darko is coming from a completely different world.  Don\'t forget, this is an 18 year old kid who knew nothing but Serbia until a year ago.  He wasn\'t conditioned the same way a kid from America who knew the NBA was in his future might be.  He had serious issues with strength.  He was far too weak to be truly effective in the post.  He has been putting on a lot of muscle, Ben Wallace has been helping him train.  The Pistons will tell you he has made a ton of progress in practice this year, playing against the likes of the Wallaces.  That is where you would really get a sense of how his skills are, NOT from a couple minutes at a time in a game.

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James may know what he is talking about but in a the real world there is noway melo would not start. He was such a huge player for the Nba. He brought in so much revenue for the NBA there is noway a guy  huge as he was this season would ride the bench.

The guy took a nothing franchise and made it something and there already dubbing him and bron the next bird and magic.
There is not a chance he would not start.


There are many things wrong with your assumptions that Melo would automatically make them better.  No team in the NBA is based more on team chemistry than the Pistons.  They are tough, gritty players, all of them, from Ben Wallace down low to Rip Hamilton, the "best conditioned man in the NBA".  Carmelo would not have fit into that image as well.  And besides, the chain of what if\'s continues...if they had Anthony, would they have traded for Wallace?  And once again, Carmelo would have averaged if you ask me MAYBE 12 ppg on Detroit, if that.  He is fed the ball in Denver and the offense goes through him.  Even if Carmelo did start in Detroit, which I honestly do not think he would, the offense would definitely not work through him.

Carmelo would not start because Larry Brown is the coach of the Pistons, plain and simple.  Larry Brown almost never starts rookies, especially at the beginning of the season.  That doesn\'t have to do with talent level, it has to do with developing the kid fully and doing things the right way.  Brown also really likes Prince, and Prince fits in well with the team.  Melo may have started near the end of the year, but surely not for the whole year.

As for Melo taking Denver single handedly from no where and making them something, that\'s garbage.  There are 5 starters on Denver, four of which were not playing for them last year.  The only one that was, Nene, was a rookie last year, and has developed a lot more.  Andre Miller, a great team PG was signed in the offseason.  Voshon Leonard was added as well.  Camby came back from injury.  There is no way you can say it was Melo and Melo alone.  The entire team was transformed.  Unlike in LeBron\'s case, this was an entirely new team, not just a new player.
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« Reply #443 on: June 13, 2004, 06:58:32 PM »
How did Wallace not get a technical after slapping Medvedenko\'s ass? Thats ridiculous.

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« Reply #444 on: June 13, 2004, 07:13:28 PM »
he was just talking to the guy, saying good hustle or other generic compliment shit like that.  For some reason Medvedenko got pissy...foreign bastard

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« Reply #445 on: June 13, 2004, 07:35:09 PM »
No, he was getting in his face, and it was obvious he was trying to get under his skin.

Few more things... this is the first game I\'ve had on mute, while listening to music over it. Whoever is commentating alongside Al Michaels is the biggest moron, douchebag, who just states the most obvious of things. I get stupider just listening to the guy. In fact, ABC sucks ass in general. WHO HONESTLY THINKS THE, \'FLOOR CAM\' IS COOL? OH SHIT, LET ME SEE IF I CAN SEE SHAQ\'S BALLSACK THROUGH HIS SHORTS!

And Rasheed has found his fit in Detroit, he is just crying and throwing his temper tantrums left and right and the refs just sit there with their thumbs up their asses. I swear if I see the camera zoom in on Rasheed\'s frowning "oh shit I\'m about to burst in tears" face again, I\'m turning the f*cking TV off and killing a small animal.

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« Reply #446 on: June 13, 2004, 07:36:27 PM »
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« Reply #447 on: June 13, 2004, 07:39:46 PM »
Ah, its Doc Rivers, I didn\'t know he could possibly be a worse commentator as he was a coach.

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« Reply #448 on: June 13, 2004, 07:43:02 PM »
And this is the part where the Lakers f*cking self-destruct, Payton acts like a typical punk and throws an elbow. Then Kobe gets the same technical that could have been called on Wallace all night. And the Lakers are down 10 with less than five minutes.

*turns off tv*

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« Reply #449 on: June 13, 2004, 07:49:16 PM »
dude, don\'t bitch about that just take your loss like a man.  Detroit should be closing out this series tonight if Kobe didn\'t hit the miracle 3.  D-town has completly bitch slapped LA all series long.  They could be playing at Shaq\'s house and they\'d still be up 3-1

 

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