NBA Playoffs... lets stick this suckah\'...

Originally posted by QuDDus
Well you make it seem like melo is some type of michael jordan ball hog. You don\'t think he could score and share the ball with the pistons?

I don\'t think melo is a ball hog. And I think in the pistons system he would fit. They need a guy who is not afraid to score points. You saw what happen in the indiana series.

And as for him not making denver something. Shocky you know better than that. This team was not getting national games on tv last year. Nobody was even mentioning this team last year. Now they are selling out arena\'s.

And there core group of guys have always been there. With out melo on denver nobody would even bother discussing them. Anyways like you said we can debate the what if\'s all day.


Now as for the pistons we are going crazy over here in detroit. 1 more game and showtime is over. They refuse to give the pistons any type of credit and complain about there not getting foul calls.
The Lakers are bunch of cry babies. I know they want this to go back to hollywood on the grand stage.

I have sick feeling that this will be forced back to LA.

1. Chauncey Billups and Rasheed Wallace are doing a fine job of scoring on their own. Rip Hamilton ain\'t doin\' a real bad job, either. They have the ability to score points.

2. Their core groups of guys has always been there? Dude, shock just told you the guys that just joined the team and the players that have been injured that they got back this year. How can you debate that?

3. The way I see it, you\'re looking in hindsight. Larry Brown would NOT have used him the same way that Denver used him this year. Their offense goes through \'Melo, whereas if he were drafted by Detroit, there would be no way that the entire offense would go through a 20 year old.

See Yuz.

Originally posted by ROL Jamas
1. Chauncey Billups and Rasheed Wallace are doing a fine job of scoring on their own. Rip Hamilton ain\'t doin\' a real bad job, either. They have the ability to score points.

2. Their core groups of guys has always been there? Dude, shock just told you the guys that just joined the team and the players that have been injured that they got back this year. How can you debate that?

3. The way I see it, you\'re looking in hindsight. Larry Brown would NOT have used him the same way that Denver used him this year. Their offense goes through \'Melo, whereas if he were drafted by Detroit, there would be no way that the entire offense would go through a 20 year old.

See Yuz.

Oh please don\'t even try to sell that story. Without Carmelo Anthony the denver nuggets would be a dead franchise. Simple as that. And you know why the nuggest offense runs through anthony?

Because there team sucks. And if you think a future superstar such as carmelo anthony could not play on a team like the piston get out sell that story to somebody else.

The badboys offense ran through Isiah Thomas and look where that got them. If Isiah could do it why couldn\'t a guy like carmelo anthony who has endless talent play for the pistons?

You\'re missing the point.

I\'m not saying that he COULDN\'T do it, I\'m just saying that this year, he wouldn\'t have been given the opportunity by Larry Brown. I am not debating wether Melo\'s a talented player or not, I\'m just debating your reasoning for thinking that he would automatically start under Larry Brown, who traditionally doesn\'t even let rookies see the court.

See Yuz.

Originally posted by QuDDus
Well you make it seem like melo is some type of michael jordan ball hog. You don\'t think he could score and share the ball with the pistons?

I don\'t think melo is a ball hog. And I think in the pistons system he would fit. They need a guy who is not afraid to score points. You saw what happen in the indiana series.

How much have you watched Melo?  I\'m a Syracuse fan, I watched him in the majority of the games he played in college.  I also have followed his career with the Nuggets as closely as I could, and I just don\'t think he fits with the Pistons.  Not every player works with every team, that\'s just the way it goes, and that\'s something that\'s true for a lot of players.

I never said that Melo was a ball hog, you did.  I just think that he is a player who needs to get a relatively high number of shots to be effective, and I don\'t think he would get those shots in Detroit.  Actually, I know he wouldn\'t, at least not as a rookie.

And last I checked they won the Indiana series in 6 games, and they\'re on their way to winning the finals.  That was just a case of great defense being played against them, and Detroit playing their kind of game against it.  Great defense will shut down even great offenses every time.  

And as for him not making denver something. Shocky you know better than that. This team was not getting national games on tv last year. Nobody was even mentioning this team last year. Now they are selling out arena\'s.

And there core group of guys have always been there. With out melo on denver nobody would even bother discussing them. Anyways like you said we can debate the what if\'s all day.

Selling out arenas and getting nationally televised games is something completely seperate from winning games.  Yes, Melo was the reason that their attendence was up and they had more national games and overall revenue, but that doesn\'t mean he\'s the reason they\'re winning.  Being discussed and being successful are different things.  

The fact is, that core group has not been there.  4 of 5 starters on the team didn\'t play last year.  Melo was drafted this year, Camby and Leonard were injured last year, and the year before that Camby was a Knick and Leonard wasn\'t a starter.  Miller, a former all star, was signed during the off season.  Last I heard, he has a bit of talent too.  Nene was drafted last year, and has really contributed.  The core has been in place for years?  Way to just illustrate your ignorance on the subject.  


And as for Melo not being able to do it, it\'s just like James said.  He could, but it\'s not a guarantee, and it would not happen this year.  Larry Brown is hesitant to give rookies much playing time at all.  If you think he\'d run the offense through one, you\'re insane.

Originally posted by videoholic

Speaking of that, let me guess your favorite baseball team.  The yankees?

Its actually the Cleveland Indians... I don\'t watch baseball, I only like Cleveland because I was born in Ohio...

Originally posted by QuDDus

Because there team sucks. And if you think a future superstar such as carmelo anthony could not play on a team like the piston get out sell that story to somebody else.

The badboys offense ran through Isiah Thomas and look where that got them. If Isiah could do it why couldn\'t a guy like carmelo anthony who has endless talent play for the pistons?

Well I didn\'t know that Nene, Miller, and Camby sucked....

The bad boys offensive ran through Isiah Thomas because he was a POINT GUARD.  That is normally how things go.  Carmelo Anthony isn\'t anywhere near Isiah Thomas yet.

has QuDDus ever actually seen the game of basketball before?

Originally posted by theomen
has QuDDus ever actually seen the game of basketball before?

LOL too funny

I just feel that the pistons passed up on a superstar. We have not had a true superstar since thomas.(hill was never a superstar)And I feel that melo will be one of the greats in the NBA and having that guy on are our roster would not hurt.

Hill was a superstar, he was an overhyped one at that.

I\'d consider Ben Wallace a superstar.  He won Defensive POTY twice in a row and brings down boards like nobodies buisness.  Its not uncommon for him to get 15-20 rebounds in a game.  

I also think that Rip Hamilton may be developing into a star, I don\'t know about a superstar yet, but he sure looks good knocking down damn near every shot.

Yeah, Big Ben is a superstar.  Not only is he a defensive GOD but he is wll recognized.  I also think Rip will be in the Reggie Miller area of stardom, not the biggest star in the league but well recognized.

Its great that Ben is a defensive master, because he is quite possibly the worst shooter in the NBA.

I went to a Pistons game earlier this year.  I suggest anyone who thinks Wallace can\'t shoot at all should go watch him warming up with like 2 or 3 other teammates out there.  He went 17/23 from downtown.  True he can\'t do jack during gametime, but good lord, when he is relaxed!  I suppose that holds true for all NBA players with the exception of Shawn Bradley.  Poor guy needs an assistant to guide his gumpy hands while tying his shoe laces.

Peja hit like 67 out of 70 from 3 during practice once.

Hey sarcasmo, I didn\'t ask for your comment!