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« on: April 19, 2004, 12:54:05 PM »
So what do you guys think your team is going to do in the draft this year?

I was hoping that the Pats would luck out w/ Stephen Jackson slipping to #21 or at least grab Kevin Jackson. Now that its come out that the Pats have acquired Corey Dillon(FOR A SECOND ROUND DRAFT PICK) I think they might go after a true number one reciever and an O/D-Lineman in the first round.

IMO, Grabbing Corey Dillon almost immediately makes the Pats O a threat.
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« Reply #1 on: April 19, 2004, 01:00:52 PM »
For those that don\'t know who is picking where, here is a mock up of the first round by way of NFL.com(circa 4/4/04)

1. SAN DIEGO -- ELI MANNING, QB. I\'m not convinced San Diego will make this selection but I do feel someone who wants Manning will come to this spot to get him. Down the stretch, quarterbacks like Manning win in the draft rooms.

2. OAKLAND -- BEN ROETHLISBERGER, QB. Once Manning leaves the board someone will want big Ben. It might not be the Raiders, but it could be. He is too close to Manning to let slip. I would have considered OT Robert Gallery here.

3. ARIZONA -- LARRY FITZGERALD, WR. Coach Dennis Green knows Fitzgerald, the Cardinals need another weapon for their young quarterback and the quarterbacks might be gone by now. If so, the Cards could move down a spot or two and still get Fitzgerald.

4. NEW YORK GIANTS -- ROBERT GALLERY, LT. This guy easily could be gone by the second spot. If the Giants move up for a QB, this is where Gallery will go. He could be a 12-year starter.

5. WASHINGTON REDSKINS -- TOMMIE HARRIS, DT. The Redskins need help up front on defense. He helps the most. Sean Taylor is a name being placed here but a penetrating DT trumps a safety.

6. DETROIT -- STEVEN JACKSON, RB. This would be a nice spot for TE Kellen Winslow, but the running back situation in Detroit needs to be fixed. Besides, West Coast coaches have found tight ends later in the draft for years.

7. CLEVELAND -- KELLEN WINSLOW, TE. The Browns would have loved to move up for Gallery, but if they stay here and Winslow falls to them he\'s a great pick. Jeff Garcia will feed him the ball.

8. ATLANTA -- MIKE WILLIAMS, WR. Rich McKay knows this kid, and IF he\'s eligible for the draft, he fits Atlanta\'s need: A big target who can give Michael Vick another dangerous weapon opposite Peerless Price. If Williams finds himself outside this draft, then Roy Williams works just as well.

9. JACKSONVILLE -- KENECHI UDEZE, DE. A defensive-minded head coach who needs to replace Tony Brackens right now and Hugh Douglas in a few years likes what this kid can do. Just watch the Rose Bowl tapes. Roy Williams is also a great fit but Jack Del Rio saw what happened in Carolina when they built the defensive line first.

10. HOUSTON -- DUNTA ROBINSON, CB. There could be some long discussions about Sean Taylor if he is still available, but Robinson lets Dom Capers move Marcus Coleman to safety. A trade down is not out of the picture. General manager Charley Casserly is one of the more capable draft-day traders.

11. PITTSBURGH -- DEANGELO HALL, CB. Hall is rated ahead of Robinson on many draft boards but easily could land up going here. The Steelers need him badly. He\'s cocky but all the great corners are.

12. NEW YORK JETS -- SEAN TAYLOR. If Taylor falls to this spot the Jets will have their draft card up in 10 seconds. I know they signed Reggie Tongue after they didn\'t get John Lynch, but they need two safeties and their head coach played the position. If he\'s off the board, then LB D.J. Williams looks like a fit.

13. BUFFALO -- ROY WILLIAMS, WR. The Bills will be ecstatic if Roy is still on the board. He answers the wide receiver issue from last year when Peerless Price left. Drew Bledsoe will be a better player overnight with this player on the field.

14. CHICAGO -- VINCE WILFORK, DT. The Bears will have some excellent options at this point. Will Smith and a receiver like Reggie Williams are options, but passing on Wilfork will be hard to do.

15. TAMPA BAY -- WILL SMITH, DE. Smith has all the attributes Monte Kiffin loves for his defense. Could make a case for Jonathan Vilma but lining Smith up opposite Simeon Rice is a better move. I really would like to see QB Philip Rivers go here and be coached by Jon Gruden.

16. SAN FRANCISCO -- REGGIE WILLIAMS, WR. Dennis Erickson has watched Reggie for his whole college career and might have even had him ranked higher than the other Williams receivers. The Niners need two receivers in this draft; here\'s the first one.

17. CINCINNATI -- CHRIS GAMBLE, CB. This might be a bit early for Gamble but only the Bengals know how much they need a corner. They tried in free agency and they saw two come off the board already so either they will move down, which is not their style, or they will take him. They will get a running back later.

18. NEW ORLEANS -- RANDY STARKS, DT. It\'s hard to find big men who can play fast and be disruptive. A linebacker like Vilma would be a nice fit but getting a young lineman to team with Johnathan Sullivan makes the Saints better, especially with the hard-pounding Panthers in their division.

19. MINNESOTA -- VERNON CAREY, OG. The Vikings would like to take a defensive end here but the best will be gone. Carey can help for a long time and the head coach is a former offensive line coach. The Vikings will get calls to trade down and the money-conscious Vikings will listen.

20. MIAMI -- SHAWN ANDREWS, OT. The Dolphins must fix the offensive line. Even though they have been signing people in free agency, Andrews fits -- especially if Carey is gone.

21. NEW ENGLAND -- CHRIS PERRY, RB. Some would argue for Kevin Jones from Virginia Tech, and they might be right. The Patriots would love a corner here so they could deal with Ty Law on their terms. They will have to move up to do that. Steven Jackson would have been a great fit at running back but they would have to give up too much to do that.

22. DALLAS -- KEVIN JONES, RB. It doesn\'t look like Corey Dillon is headed to Texas, and Jones could still be on the board. If not, the Cowboys could take OLB Karlos Dansby right here and address the 3-4 package they want to install.

23. SEATTLE -- JONATHAN VILMA, LB. The Seahawks need a middle linebacker/weakside linebacker who makes plays like Vilma. If he\'s gone, they would look at his teammate, D.J. Williams.

24. DENVER -- D.J. WILLIAMS, LB. The Broncos could look at DT Marcus Tubbs here or TE Ben Troupe, but speed linebacker in Larry Coyer\'s defense is very important. Replacing Ian Gold has to get done. Williams is a bigger version of Gold and might be higher up the draft board than others have mentioned.

25. GREEN BAY PACKERS -- PHILIP RIVERS, QB. I can\'t believe Rivers is still on the board, and neither can the Packers. Finally, someone to replace Brett Favre down the road. Look for teams in the next few weeks to move up 8-10 spots from here to grab Rivers. If Tim Couch goes to Green Bay, then this changes.

26. ST. LOUIS -- ANTWAN ODOM, DE. The Rams would like a corner here but the top three are gone by now. So, they turn their attention to replacing Grant Wistrom. A bit of a reach in some people\'s eyes but need is need.

27. TENNESSEE -- JUSTIN SMILEY, OG/OT. An NFL line coach told me Smiley was his second-ranked lineman. He also said lots of coaches love the guy. The Titans need defensive line help bad but will address it later.

28. PHILADELPHIA -- KARLOS DANSBY, LB. The Eagles fixed wide receiver and defensive end in free agency. A running back would help but the top ones will be gone. A tall, athletic linebacker to really replace Carlos Emmons would work here even though they signed Dhani Jones from the Giants.

29. INDIANAPOLIS -- DERRICK STRAIT, CB. The Colts would be happy if Strait were still on the board. If not, a linebacker like Dontarrious Thomas might fit. The Chiefs are right behind the Colts and need a corner. Will Poole ran too slow at his Pro Day to present options.

30. KANSAS CITY -- MICHAEL CLAYTON, WR. There are some very good receivers to choose from at this point in the draft. Lee Evans and Rashard Woods are two others who could be under consideration.

31. CAROLINA -- BEN TROUPE, TE. The Panthers need secondary help with the loss of two starters but might not have anyone on the board worthy of a first-round pick. Troupe needs to become a better blocker, but he is a weapon like they don\'t have in Carolina. They get a quality wide receiver with a later pick. CB Ricardo Colclough looks better in the second round.

32. NEW ENGLAND -- CHRIS SNEE, OG. The Patriots could take center Jake Grove here but recent success with Boston College linemen might make Snee the choice.
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« Reply #2 on: April 19, 2004, 01:25:09 PM »
I really hope the Bears go for Wilfork... He\'s a freakin\' monster.
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« Reply #3 on: April 19, 2004, 01:38:24 PM »
i agree with that pick for the broncos. We sure as hell dont need a TE anymore since weve aquired about 4 of them, resigned another, have chamberlain, and sharpe is still up in the air. The broncos do need a LB though. RB could be another even though we have 4 of those, and a WR since theres a bunch of those this year. Lastly would be a DT since they signed a bunch of veterans for the D-line.
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« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2004, 04:20:31 PM »
Overall, a nice list...

But there\'s no way that Sean Taylor goes 12th. None. Outside of that, good list, except for that. He\'ll go 5th to the Redskins or 6th to the Lions.

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« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2004, 06:54:48 PM »
Niners need a reciever, thats the bottom line. Nobody will fill T.O\'s shoes, but should come relatively close, minus the lockerroom drama.

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« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2004, 08:36:22 PM »
Man I hope Vilma/DJ Williams falls to the Colts.  If not then I hope they get Dunta Robinson, Karlos Dansby, or Derrick Strait.
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« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2004, 09:14:32 PM »
I hope the niners go for talent on the board instead of a WR with their first pick, because they could pick up a wr in the second round that is just as good as the late 1st round recievers, the draft depth is very high for WR\'s this year.  There are only 2-3 that are heads and shoulders above the rest.

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« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2004, 09:51:19 PM »
I hate Kellen Winslow but I\'d love have him at Cleveland.  Also, I don\'t care what teams on top, for godsakes pick Fitzgerald.
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« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2004, 10:08:16 PM »
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4. NEW YORK GIANTS -- ROBERT GALLERY, LT. This guy easily could be gone by the second spot. If the Giants move up for a QB, this is where Gallery will go. He could be a 12-year starter.

12. NEW YORK JETS -- SEAN TAYLOR. If Taylor falls to this spot the Jets will have their draft card up in 10 seconds. I know they signed Reggie Tongue after they didn\'t get John Lynch, but they need two safeties and their head coach played the position. If he\'s off the board, then LB D.J. Williams looks like a fit.


I would nut.  That would be so ****ing incredible.  Giants get their man without trading up, and then Sean Taylor, who should be a top 6 or so pick at least goes to the Jets somehow?  I SERIOUSLY doubt the Jets have a shot at Taylor, but that would be amazing.
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2004, 08:39:40 PM »
Well Eli is pulling an Elway saying he doesn\'t want to play for the Chargers, and the supreme court ruled against Clarett.  So that shakes up the draft a little.  I want to see Minnesota miss their pick again and it will be quality.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2004, 08:57:58 PM »
Washington + Gibbs = #1

i hope  :iono:  :dance:

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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2004, 10:49:43 PM »
I find it really strange that I\'m saying this, because if I had to bet, I\'d bet he\'ll make me eat my words, but I don\'t want the Giants drafting Eli Manning.  I think that despite what happened last year, we have a team that can compete now, and Kerry Collins is a good enough quarterback to lead this team.  What we need is offensive line help.  Gallery would help us immediately.  Manning would sit, and we would still have serious problems up front.  I just think we would have to give up too much to get Manning.

Of course, if we do end up with him, I won\'t complain.  I\'ll just be very curious to see how we try to fix this pathetic O-Line of ours.
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2004, 03:50:54 PM »
Rookie qb\'s can ruin teams.


I\'m all for developing a high first-round QB, but being a Bears fan I also know how a rookie QB who is pushed to start too soon can completely screw a team for yeaars at a time.

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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2004, 03:56:55 PM »
Haha... we (49ers) used to have Cade McNown, and then I think we cut him.

 

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