God Damn thread closing hippies

Originally posted by mm
they fukn interviewed kids some 15 years ago and said, "hey, is pot a gateway drug?"wtf are they supposed to say? :rolleyes:

You\'re attacking the methodology of the study without knowing anything about it.  You don\'t know what questions they asked without reviewing the report.

you\'re damn right they have

saying every pot smoker will escalate to harder drugs is irrational also.  i\'m not saying this,  but pot IS the doorway

Yeah right... pot smokers have changed quite a bit in the last 10 years.    Sorry, but not true.  Their behaviors are more stuck in the past than most portions of society.

im shocked at your lack of observation

So educate me, unless your fingers are too tired.

no, my patience is

pot was not gloryfied back in 1990, like it is today.  please feel free to discount that.....no?  ok

Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
http://marijuana.drug-culture.com/history/marijuana-gateway-drug.asp

http://www.marijuanaaddiction.info/marijuana-gateway-drug.htm

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/record/record2010.24.html

u know, i could post countless more..

What makes those studies valid but the one that cored posted invalid?

Originally posted by mm
they fukn interviewed kids some 15 years ago and said, "hey, is pot a gateway drug?"

wtf are they supposed to say?

I may be wrong but I don\'t think there was any mention of interviews in that study. Its a mathematical model based on drug use surveys.

Originally posted by mm
you\'re damn right they have

How have the habits of drug users changed in the last 10 years?

Originally posted by mm
no, my patience is

pot was not gloryfied back in 1990, like it is today.  please feel free to discount that.....no?  ok

I don\'t think that\'s true, but even if it is...

It\'s irrelevant to the question of whether smoking pot leads to using to harder drugs.

aye, because it does

i hate repeating myself...

noone starts on coke, or heroin, crack, etc

Marijuana use is actually lower than it was a few years ago. Usage rose during the 90\'s but never came close to usage statistics from the late 70\'s.

you go around asking people?

Originally posted by mm
noone starts on coke, or heroin, crack, etc

This can be proven false so it is not a fact.

You also said yourself that one does not necessarily lead to the other.

Originally posted by mm
you go around asking people?

Look up some statistics.

Originally posted by mm
aye, because it does

i hate repeating myself...

Those who use crack, heroin, or cocaine may be people who were ALWAYS predisposed to use any and all drugs available to them.  Just because they started with marijuana does not necessarily imply that they were seduced into a life of drug abuse by the treacherous weed.  It may only indicate that weed was more convenient to obtain in the beginning, while they were building connections, and then they eventually found their "life\'s calling."  That\'s an explanation put forth in the article I posted above.

BTW I know many people who use ONLY weed and do so safely without ever graduating to a harder drug.

sooooo, your saying it makes it a gateway drug
/boggle

BS (ehhe, nice initials)
im not saying ALL pot smokers escalate.  you guys can get off that moot point now, its dead

if someone smokes pot, than tries coke, shrooms, acid, pcp, whatever...

-newsflash-  pot was the gateway
omfg! *gasp*

IF they smoke pot thier whole lives, and NEVER try anything else?  congrats, give them a fukn cookie for thier efforts.  they only killed some brain cells and not ruin thier lives :rolleyes:

pot is THE gateway drug, whether a potsmoker opens that door is up to them

Read again.  You\'re not grasping it.

Calling pot a "gateway" drug implies that the user never would have fallen prey to the harder drugs if they had not been seduced by pot to begin with.  It suggests that marijuana is extra dangerous because of this pathway.

I\'m saying that those people who use the harder drugs were not innocent little lambs to begin with.  They are"fuked" up nutcases with addictive personalities  who would use any drug they can get their hands on.  If pot didn\'t exist, they would be using magic markers or pixie sticks, and you\'d be calling THOSE the gateway drugs.  

Eliminating pot or making it illegal doesn\'t solve the problem.  Removing this supposed "gateway" doesn\'t close to path to harder drugs.  In fact it doesn\'t cause any impediment at all to people who long to destroy themselves.  Only diagnosis and treatment will do that.

Marijuana by itself is not dangerous if used in moderation, as many of my friends do.

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

Originally posted by Coredweller
Read again.  You\'re not grasping it.

Calling pot a "gateway" drug implies that the user never would have fallen prey to the harder drugs if they had not been seduced by pot to begin with.  It suggests that marijuana is extra dangerous because of this pathway.

I\'m saying that those people who use the harder drugs were not innocent little lambs to begin with.  They are"fuked" up nutcases with addictive personalities  who would use any drug they can get their hands on.  If pot didn\'t exist, they would be using magic markers or pixie sticks, and you\'d be calling THOSE the gateway drugs.  

err no, because in the mind of most people. Marijuana is a harmless drug that won\'t lead them to anything. Sadly its not true, some people can be more effected then others.
You\'re proving our point. People start normally on Marijuana before any other drug.  Just look at all the yound kiddys that start drug use. Its normally on Marijuana, not coke or acid or whatever...

Eliminating pot or making it illegal doesn\'t solve the problem.  Removing this supposed "gateway" doesn\'t close to path to harder drugs.  In fact it doesn\'t cause any impediment at all to people who long to destroy themselves.  Only diagnosis and treatment will do that.

There really isn\'t a solution, make it fully legal and we see it everywhere. Make it illegal and its underground.

Marijuana by itself is not dangerous if used in moderation, as many of my friends do.

key word, moderation.

Just because you don\'t understand my point doesn\'t mean I\'m proving yours.  Lol.  Try reading my post again.

Almost anything has a potential for abuse if used in excess.  You anti-marijuana forces seem to believe that pot needs to be illegal because it\'s so dangerous.  However, there are many other mood enhancers that have a much greater potential for dangerous abuse, such as alcohol.  The difference is that alcohol is legal, and the government takes a cut of the sales.