....PS3 in 2007???XBOX2 in 2005??

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by Rikku
I really don\'t think Sony can afford to give MS and Nintendo that much time to take the market.  I don\'t think the developers will wait around which means Sony could lose some key franchises.

What do you mean take the market? The PS2 would probably still outsell those consoles..

Originally posted by Unicron!
Lets say that each generation lasts araound 6 years.If XBOX2 and the next Nintendo console are released around 2005 the next generation will start from there, their life will last till around 2011 and thats when the next generation will come with the newer MS and Nintendo consoles.If PS3 is released in 2007 when will its life end and when will the PS4 appear??

actually, the leader dictates when the next generation starts...

If MS and Nintendo\'s presence is signifigantly strong in the market with their next gen consoles I believe the next gen will begin.Unless Sony\'s PS3 is enough powerful and has enough "unique" features that will make it stand out of the rest and "restart" the generation.

[Paul2]

I think it be better if sony release it in 2006, 2007 seem too far off...

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Originally posted by Rikku
I really don\'t think Sony can afford to give MS and Nintendo that much time to take the market.  I don\'t think the developers will wait around which means Sony could lose some key franchises.

I still think Sony will make it in the first half of 2006.

exactly..

Originally posted by Unicron!
If MS and Nintendo\'s presence is signifigantly strong in the market with their next gen consoles I believe the next gen will begin.Unless Sony\'s PS3 is enough powerful and has enough "unique" features that will make it stand out of the rest and "restart" the generation.

Actually, what I ment is, this generation basically started with the launch of PS2 since it\'s the number 1 selling console and that by quite a margin. That means consumers, and roughly most of them own just one console anyway, will probably want to hold of their next purchase for quite a while. If Microsoft or Nintendo starts next generation too early, they might just get into a Dreamcast like scenario with 3rd party developers hesitating to start development because the bulk of the market is still happy playing their PS2\'s (and that\'s where in reality the cash is). On the other hand, consumers might want to hold of with their purchase aswell, simply because they have a relatively new PS2 already. Next generation will start when PS2\'s comes to an end - and if Sony plays their cards right, that will happen once PS3 launches. Of course, if XboxNext/NintendoRevolution grabs the market by suprise and 3 years down the road they are the leading console manufacturer, obviously, XboxNext/NintendoRevolution dictates when next generation starts.

True.Lets assume that PS3 comes in 2007 without any major hardware difference etc and the games arent that special compared to competitors while XBOX2 and the next Nintendo have already collected a number of quality games and some support during the two years of PS3\'s absence(especially games from firts and second party developers).Those that have been waiting for PS3 will reconsider it.They might be converted.In such a scenario before PS3\'s launch people are hesitating to buy an XBOX2 or a Revolution becuase they are waiting for a PS3.But after a dissapointment they mught prefer the other consoles that already have games and some support.
Developers need money and some might develop some console selling titles for MS or Nintendo.Games like MGS, Final Fantasy etc are titles that may seem too tempting.
There is a chance the XBOX2 and "Revolution" might end up as the next DC.But who knows if the PS3 ends up as the next "XBOX"?
I wonder what sony is planning for PS3 btw.The Cell processor is still incomplete.Hardware specs still arent defined.No news of any development kits from Sony, nothing about tools...The PS3 is like a ghost console.XBOX2 is already taking some shape.

^^^wow Uni said something pro-xbox

How long does it take to make a processor anyway?  I\'ve been hearing about the cell for what seems like years now.

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Originally posted by THX
^^^wow Uni said something pro-xbox

How long does it take to make a processor anyway?  I\'ve been hearing about the cell for what seems like years now.

tru..by the time this cell thingy comes out it will already be outdated..

^^^wow Uni said something pro-xbox  

 
Thats not the first time

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by Unicron!

Developers need money and some might develop some console selling titles for MS or Nintendo.Games like MGS, Final Fantasy etc are titles that may seem too tempting.

That logic is flawed. If money was what the developers were really concerned about when they went to develop for the next MS or N consoles, then they\'d still be developing for the PS2, which will still be selling better than said newer consoles.\\

However, when the next Playstation is released, if it happens to be quite some time after the next MS or N consoles, then it simply must have launch titles to sell the machine. Going up against a couple of companies who already have extremely solid (and well established) first party lineups, they are almost guaranteed to have good quality, and popular games on the system. The PS3\'s hype will help to stave off a lot of sails for the competition, but if it\'s launch games aren\'t up to scratch with what the competition has to offer, then there would most likely be a little bit of trouble. Not necessarily enough to lose their \'lead\', but trouble non-the less. Although, backwards compatability could help a little.

I\'d like to see the next SOCOM and Gran Turismo be the major launch games. And who knows, maybe even Killzone 2.

I don\'t care what anybody says. Nobody is going sit and wait 2007 to play next generation games.

Sony cannot give there competition and 2year advantage plain and simple.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by QuDDus
I don\'t care what anybody says. Nobody is going sit and wait 2007 to play next generation games.

Sony cannot give there competition and 2year advantage plain and simple.

But how many people waited until the XBox (or GameCube) was released to play, what was then, next generation games?

Or, perhaps a more pertinent example; How many people waited until the PS2 was released to play, what was then, next generation games? The DC was available for quite some time, remember?

Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
But how many people waited until the XBox (or GameCube) was released to play, what was then, next generation games?

Or, perhaps a more pertinent example; How many people waited until the PS2 was released to play, what was then, next generation games? The DC was available for quite some time, remember?

Hey you make a good point. Could be rite. But you have to understand Xbox and Nintendo have gained far more success than the dreamcast.  And have proven to be lasting consoles. And are far better consoles.

They may have not overtaken sony but they have made a name for themselves this generation. Especially the microsoft xbox.

Xbox2 has a very good chance of being a huge console and with no real competition for 2 years microsoft could have the opening they need.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by QuDDus
Hey you make a good point. Could be rite. But you have to understand Xbox and Nintendo have gained far more success than the dreamcast.  And have proven to be lasting consoles. And are far better consoles.

They may have not overtaken sony but they have made a name for themselves this generation. Especially the microsoft xbox.

Xbox2 has a very good chance of being a huge console and with no real competition for 2 years microsoft could have the opening they need.

Exactly (read my above posts on the matter).

However, Xbox2 will have real competition in that it\'s still competing against the PS2. Whether or not you think it\'s real competition or not is up for debate, however. It\'ll still be doing damn well, and have a [n]lot[/b] of third party support, etc. etc.