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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2004, 02:11:41 PM »
You could always buy a ticket to White Chicks and walk into Fahrenheit 9/11.  :)
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« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2004, 02:45:18 PM »
that\'s what the radio DJ did in our market.
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« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2004, 03:35:28 PM »
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No offense - but he shares the same opinions as Moore so why wouldn\'t he think that Moore\'s fact checking is accurate especially when he states "I agree with Moore that the presidency of George W. Bush has been a disaster for America."?
So only people who disagree with an opinionated documentary can have valid opinions on it?
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« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2004, 03:38:32 PM »
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You could always buy a ticket to White Chicks and walk into Fahrenheit 9/11.  :)

I tihnk that would be even worse, good idea though. ;)

Nice sig btw haha.  ...Like it\'s never soared beforrrrrrreeee.  Dumb prick finally got on Letterman and didn\'t sing the damn song!

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« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2004, 04:01:41 PM »
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So only people who disagree with an opinionated documentary can have valid opinions on it?


Not if the movie was based on the credible facts.  F911 isn\'t.
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« Reply #20 on: June 28, 2004, 05:08:35 PM »
^^^Thats ridiculous.

If a supporter says "I love this movie", that holds no less weight than an opposer saying "I hate this movie". To think otherwise is idiotic.

Bush did not give credible facts during the build up to Iraq. Does that mean only the liberal opinion is valid on the subject?

BTW, Have YOU seen the movie? Doesn\'t the fact that you have NOT make your opinion invalid?
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« Reply #21 on: June 28, 2004, 05:16:02 PM »
I even watched a special on NBC that cut the movie down.  I\'ll find the time to waste my money on it but I already have a pretty good idea what I\'m getting myself into.

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« Reply #22 on: June 28, 2004, 09:25:32 PM »
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A documentary has no responsibility to presenting BOTH sides of the story.  It can be as skewed as you want it to be.  If you have a problem with it, the only recourse is to make a skewed documentary of your own.  The important thing about them is that you present your side, however skewed you want, but make sure the facts are completely accurate.  Bowling for Columbine was criticized heavily for not doing just that and Moore went ahead and made sure that this particular movie actually was as accurate as possible -- only he made sure to include half the story rather then changing it around to make a more interesting film.

A subtle difference and still a lie when you get down to it, but a far better lie then what he did in BfC.


Thank God someone has a clue around here.

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« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2004, 03:51:26 AM »
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Thank God someone has a clue around here.


Thank God you\'re here to point out who has a clue. ;)
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« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2004, 04:27:34 AM »
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^^^Thats ridiculous.

If a supporter says "I love this movie", that holds no less weight than an opposer saying "I hate this movie". To think otherwise is idiotic.

Bush did not give credible facts during the build up to Iraq. Does that mean only the liberal opinion is valid on the subject?

BTW, Have YOU seen the movie? Doesn\'t the fact that you have NOT make your opinion invalid?


As a matter of fact I did see the movie last night - I won\'t go into detail on how I did though.  BTW have YOU seen the movie?  Thankfully I didn\'t pay to see the POS.  It really is bad if you are looking for something insightful and truthful, especially after reading numerous reviews from several different sources this film just doesn\'t cut it.  I don\'t care about the slant as long as the author uses the truth.  If Moore had revealed anything that was groundbreaking and earth shattering I would have been the first to concede that he had done so.

If Moore had used credible facts I would be unable to deny that he made a good film, but in this case he clearly didn\'t.  Do you usually pay someone to lie to you BS?  If you don\'t, then I suggest finding another way to see this movie.  As I have stated many times before and as "Roger Ebert says" if you are going to attack someone use facts to back it up.  For example, Moore\'s assertion that because James Baker worked for a company related to Saudi Royal Family and George Sr. went to work for that same company years later, somehow Bush Jr. has a direct connection to the Saudi Royal Family and shows them preferential treatment.  We aren\'t playing 8 degrees of separation here.    

Anyone who thinks Moore is insightful or brilliant when it comes to politics is quite frankly an idiot.  On that note I will give Moore credit for one thing - great editing.  I thought the editing for reality shows was good, but this guy has a real talent for making everyone look like a fool and promoting his agenda.

Finally when it comes to Moore\'s character vs. Bush\'s... there is no comparison.  Even though Bush has made mistakes he is no where near the sack of shit Moore is and I am not judging him by his films... take a look at his lifestyle and his public statements if you disagree.  The man has an identity crisis.
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« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2004, 05:28:49 AM »
Didn\'t I say something about agendas and documentaries? Yes. Yes I did.

Moore is a "stupid fat white man". :p
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« Reply #26 on: June 30, 2004, 09:58:13 AM »
I saw the film and loved it. Not completely for its political message, but for the filmmaking and some of the greatest laughs I\'ve had this year. There are some really clever pokes at the Bush administration and Moore does have some really convincing arguments that I\'d love to see someone attempt to refute them. It was definitely absurd when we see the Iraqi\'s playing in the streets and the wedding making it look like a normal place but atleast I got a reaction from it much like the entire film.

I\'m never going to get over watching that guy spit in his hand to smooth out his hair.
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« Reply #27 on: June 30, 2004, 11:10:30 AM »
Name an argument in the film that you find convincing.
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« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2004, 11:18:18 AM »
The war in Iraq being unnecessary?
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« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2004, 11:22:10 AM »
I wouldn\'t call that irrefutable - after all his little panorama of the peaceful Iraqi\'s flying kites, etc prior to the Defense Ministry blowing up wasn\'t exactly truthful - even you admitted that.

Try again.
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