Author Topic: More on Moore and F911 (Read 4097 times)

SirMystiq · « **Reply #75 on:** July 18, 2004, 10:37:45 AM »

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Originally posted by Bozco
Even staunch liberals don\'t call conservatives un-american, you\'re just not all here. Hopefully you get it all together before you start voting in 5 years.

I know dude, I was just pissed b/c I had just gotten home from some Christian Pro-Bush B.S. Who would of thought that a group of kids that get together to worship their God would have to listen to 90% of how much Democrats and liberals are "un-patriotic" and "anti-Christian" and that Republicans do "God\'s work" and that Bush is "God\'s chosen one" I went to pick up my girlfried...but nooo turns out it started an hour late...so I was there just in time to be there. Wow.

Please with B.S. like that how can I help not being anti-Christian.

I know it\'s all about views and just because Gman has opposite views doesn\'t mean he\'s a dumbass. It\'s just not fun arguing like that

« **Reply #76 on:** July 18, 2004, 04:54:15 PM »

Haha, of course it\'s no fun to be nice. Thats why when making my point I go on to make fun of you for being a year or two younger than me.

Bobs_Hardware · « **Reply #77 on:** July 18, 2004, 10:23:02 PM »

The worst thing about this movie is that I know people that will be convinced that Bush is evil, the war is wrong and that all of this was only to make the Bushies more rich.

I don\'t mind if people think that, but if they\'re going to, don\'t let it be because of this movie. Whilst I disagree with the war, and what I know of Bush\'s administration I can\'t really agree with a lot of the movie, and a lot of it left me sitting there a little baffled. Particularly parts that I knew were false before going in there. I just know I\'m going to be arguing in a pro-Bush manner to these people, and that\'s a fight I really don\'t want to be fighting!

I did think the movie was very funny, though.

"...now watch me hit this drive."

"There\'s an old saying in Tennessee. Well I know it\'s in Texas, so I think it\'s in Tennessee. Fool me once.. and it\'s.. you.. shame on you. Fool me... you won\'t fool me a second time."

Bwahaha.

Well worth my money.

« **Reply #78 on:** July 19, 2004, 07:14:13 AM »

He\'s certainly not a smooth talker and I find that stuff pretty damn funny too but he is not the devil as Moore would like us to believe.

SirMystiq · « **Reply #79 on:** July 19, 2004, 06:29:40 PM »

I think that that\'s were people can draw the line when it comes to this movie. Moore\'s impression of Bush, Ace you say that Moore made him seem like the devil and to me that is taking it to an extreme. The film in my opinion never presented a form of hatred or anger but more of disgust and heavy dissaproval of what Bush is doing. Moore didn\'t make Bush seem "evil" he just painted Bush as a monely loving, brainless and confused Republican.

Bobs_Hardware · « **Reply #80 on:** July 19, 2004, 09:36:43 PM »

I find people who are against Moore and his movie in fact use the same tactics in describing Moore and his movie that they are criticising him for.

Moore\'s stretching the truth and presenting his side of the story to get his point across is similar to, say.. GigaShadow saying this: "George W. Bush knew a guy, who knew a guy, who stood next to a guy on an elevator, who happened to be the husband of a girl whose cousin was dating this really, really fat man, who worked with a guy who was related to...". And yes Giga, I know it\'s called hyperbole but the point still stands.

I\'ve seen many people criticise the movie in a similar manner (on that particular point and others, albeit in a far less flippant way) and it\'s really just as frustrating as Moore\'s stretching the facts.

At some points he does try and portray Bush as a man with ill-intentions. Not evil as such, but as a man who became president not to change the country, but to make more money for himself. These are the portions of the movie I find hardest to swallow. For the most part, however, he portray Bush as a clumsy fool who doesn\'t quite know what he\'s doing. Or rather, shows footage of Bush being a clumsy fool who doesn\'t quite know what he\'s doing.

« **Reply #81 on:** July 20, 2004, 01:47:36 AM »

Some of it is not even stretching the truth but not the truth at all.

As a matter of fact, I would say calling it stretching the truth is just a way to make you feel better about spreading a lie.

When I say you I mean in the general sense.

« **Reply #82 on:** July 20, 2004, 04:09:33 AM »

Interesting side note:

Linda Ronstadt was booed off a stage in Vegas for telling everyone to go see F911:

Before singing "Desperado" for an encore Saturday night, the 58-year-old rocker called Moore a "great American patriot" and "someone who is spreading the truth." She also encouraged everybody to see the documentary about President Bush (search).

Ronstadt\'s comments drew loud boos and some of the 4,500 people in attendance stormed out of the theater. People also tore down concert posters and tossed cocktails into the air.

"It was a very ugly scene," Aladdin President Bill Timmins told The Associated Press. "She praised him and all of a sudden all bedlam broke loose."

Timmins, who is British and was watching the show, decided Ronstadt had to go — for good. Timmins said he didn\'t allow Ronstadt back in her luxury suite and she was escorted off the property.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126222,00.html

This is just another case in point that shows how uninformed most celebrities as well as some average citizens are. They see it on screen so it must be true. Moore as "someone who is spreading the truth", that is rich :rolleyes:

GmanJoe · « **Reply #83 on:** July 20, 2004, 04:31:25 AM »

I was gonna post that yesterday but I\'m already on Cored\'s bad side as it is over that fat white liar, Michael Moore.

GmanJoe · « **Reply #84 on:** July 20, 2004, 06:10:41 AM »

And before Miss Tiq gets her panties in a bunch about Free Speech, this has nothing to do with Free Speech. Free Speech is more in regards to the Gov\'t not being able suppress or abridge the press or an individual\'s freedom to express.

This situation is more like the hotel hired Linda to entertain the guests but ended up pissing them off with her political rant. So Linda got the boot!

SirMystiq · « **Reply #85 on:** July 20, 2004, 12:03:07 PM »

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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Interesting side note:

Linda Ronstadt was booed off a stage in Vegas for telling everyone to go see F911:

Before singing "Desperado" for an encore Saturday night, the 58-year-old rocker called Moore a "great American patriot" and "someone who is spreading the truth." She also encouraged everybody to see the documentary about President Bush (search).

Ronstadt\'s comments drew loud boos and some of the 4,500 people in attendance stormed out of the theater. People also tore down concert posters and tossed cocktails into the air.

"It was a very ugly scene," Aladdin President Bill Timmins told The Associated Press. "She praised him and all of a sudden all bedlam broke loose."

Timmins, who is British and was watching the show, decided Ronstadt had to go — for good. Timmins said he didn\'t allow Ronstadt back in her luxury suite and she was escorted off the property.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,126222,00.html

This is just another case in point that shows how uninformed most celebrities as well as some average citizens are. They see it on screen so it must be true. Moore as "someone who is spreading the truth", that is rich :rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

If it doesn\'t comes from Bush\'s mouth it isn\'t true.

:rollseyes:

If Giga doesn\'t believe it, it must not be true.

:rollseyes:

Gman is probably just trying to get on Giga\'s good side.

:rollseyes:

:rollseyes: :rollseyes: :rollseyes:

« **Reply #86 on:** July 20, 2004, 12:22:59 PM »

I just read about this, this morning. Im glad she knew what the consequences would be. She did it intentionally. Obviously it was the first time she tried it. If she didnt expect that to happen then she would be pretty stupid. Ive been thinking recently how torn we can be, as a country, just over whether youre a republican or a democrat.

Ive heard people hesitate to let somebody marry somebody if they are of the opposite party. Its pretty sad. By labeling ourselves it creates controversy. This is true in any form of labeling usually. I know it serves a purpose but people take things so damn seriously that its not even funny.

GmanJoe · « **Reply #87 on:** July 20, 2004, 02:02:17 PM »

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Originally posted by SirMystiq
:rolleyes:

If it doesn\'t comes from Bush\'s mouth it isn\'t true.

:rolleyes:

If Giga doesn\'t believe it, it must not be true.

:rollseyes:

Gman is probably just trying to get on Giga\'s good side.

You have a very weak logic there.

« **Reply #88 on:** July 20, 2004, 03:17:18 PM »

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Originally posted by SirMystiq
:rolleyes:

If it doesn\'t comes from Bush\'s mouth it isn\'t true.

:rolleyes:

If Giga doesn\'t believe it, it must not be true.

:rollseyes:

Gman is probably just trying to get on Giga\'s good side.

:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

WTF? Are you off your meds? :rolleyes:

What does that have to with Linda Ronstadt getting the boot from a Vegas show?

Gman - her political leanings don\'t really surprise me - after all she had the hots for Jerry Brown, but to say MM speaks the truth

Bobs_Hardware · « **Reply #89 on:** July 20, 2004, 09:01:52 PM »

Hey Giga, did you laugh at all throughout the movie?

Hello

Author Topic: More on Moore and F911 (Read 4097 times)