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Offline GmanJoe

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Was watching PBS last night about Saddam.
« on: July 07, 2004, 06:31:34 AM »
Back in the late 70\'s, Iran\'s gov\'t was overthrown by the Ayatollah Khomeini and his religious followers shook the Arab nations. Just about every Arab nation had groups of religious militants looking for that one leader and Saddam was having none of it. The majority of Iraqis were Shi\'ite Muslims...the same as Khomeini.

Saddam took a preemptive strike against Iran when he realized that this religious movement had the potential to spread to his country and to the rest of the Arab nations. He took it upon himself to be the front line against these "radicals". With the help of the US (Rumsfeld paid a visit to Saddam), Germans and French, Saddam not only used their weapons but also their chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers.

However, Iran outnumbered Iraq by 3 to 1 and despite their heavy losses, began to move into Kurdish territory in Iraq. And that\'s when Saddam gassed that Kurdish town...killing Kurdish women and children. Iranian military used this massacre as an advantage and brought in Western journalists to show the world.

This pretty much put a stop of war supplies to Iraq and soon, Iran and Iraq made peace after an 8 year war.

However, Saddam was deep in military debt and needed more income and still keep his military without cutting cost. Solution? Kuwait.

And you know the rest of the story. I guess my point here is : you never know when the country you\'re helping will later end up as your enemy. The Arab Nations along with the Western Nations were scared of the possible religious domino affect that the Ayatolla Khomeini could have caused. However, in helping Saddam, they helped a future enemy.

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2004, 06:56:32 AM »


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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2004, 07:58:15 AM »
^^^classic...:laughing:
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2004, 08:19:15 AM »
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^^^classic...:laughing:


That was the footage shown in the PBS show last night. Did you laugh at the picture of Roosevelt shaking hands with Lenin too?
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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2004, 09:12:47 AM »
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That was the footage shown in the PBS show last night. Did you laugh at the picture of Roosevelt shaking hands with Lenin too?


nope only that picture..;) on another note, that part about saddam gasing his people..are you stating that he didn\'t intentionally mean to gas his people? he only did it to deter the iranians?
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« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2004, 09:27:08 AM »
He\'s always had problems with the Kurds and had no hesitation about the collateral damage. He could have just used conventional weapons and achieve a tactical victory...instead, he just gassed everyone up there. By that time, the Iranians were prepared for chemical warfare and the only casualties were the Kurdish people (to the rest of the world, they were Iraqis).

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nope only that picture..;)


But you see what I mean? Even Roosevelt, suspicious of Lenin, helped him anyway. There were greater evils that day....only to wake up to another.
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« Reply #6 on: July 07, 2004, 09:39:56 AM »
thanks for clearing that up gman..i fully understand what you mean on both points. :)
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2004, 09:42:19 AM »
Our Lord please deliver us from the great boogeyman Communism.  :p
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2004, 09:48:31 AM »
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Our Lord please deliver us from the great boogeyman Communism.  :p


You need to move to Russia, then. :)
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2004, 09:48:35 AM »
We probably should have just given Saddam financial aide instead of chemical weapons and whatever else we gave him. We really got knee deep in crap because of that war. Although, we never would have guessed he would use the weapons like that too so who knows.
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2004, 03:02:04 PM »
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You need to move to Russia, then


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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2004, 04:04:39 PM »
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Although, we never would have guessed he would use the weapons like that too so who knows.


LOL, yeah the US just gave him chemical weapons and bioligical agents just so he could feel safe.

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« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2004, 04:17:42 PM »
As Gman said throughout our history we have aided one time allies who then become our enemy.  No big surprise - in WW2 we gave so much to the Soviets it wasn\'t even funny.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2004, 05:32:01 PM »
They were armed purposely to become enemies, just like how US and Britain has been arming North Korea, giving them in the spent spent fuel rods etc... WAR has always been good for the ELITE, it gives big brother more control over our lives, fly 2 planes into a building, and then say look we are under attack citizens give us your rights and liberty and we promise to protect you "PATRIOT ACT 1 and 2"  COde yellow alert etc...

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« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2004, 05:41:25 PM »
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They were armed purposely to become enemies


I stopped reading there... :stick:

That is one of the most intellectually empty comments I have read in this forum.
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