Anyone remember this guy?

Someone want to PM me the pics?

Ok, I got the pics.  Some are pretty brutal, but it\'s mostly just multiple pics of like 3 guys and one "bonus" pic of a guy knocked unconscious.  I\'ll put them in a zip, then PM people the link.  The link will be up for 24 hours.  After 24 hours, whether you jump on it or not, the files will be deleted.  If the number of downloads exceeds 30, I\'ll promptly delete the file whether the 24-hour limit has been hit or not.

If you happen to MISS the download, just PM me your e-mail address and I\'ll send a quick e-mail to you from my gmail account.

Not as bad as I thought it would be.

Originally posted by Cyrus
Uni your a pansy a$$ biatch... Honestly anytime you hear an american saying they hate anyone you say it all becuase of our politics. Well guess what your so caught up in your politics you cant see your hand in front of you face..... This dude is a Hero and for what politics maybe but HES AMERICAN. I told you before you dont understand what that means to most of us when we say it you never could.

Its obvious you didnt catch my point.tell me why YOU hate Iraqis.And I am NOT accusing Proud To Be.Far from it I know how hard it is and that he is doing his duty as he was ordered to!What you DONT understand is that HATRED between people is never a result from the people THEMSELVES!Unlike you people(excluding Proud to Be) I ve spent 2 years in the army by force and things are a lot different when you arent doing it by will.Especially when you view people full of unneeded hatred and nationalistic believes that cause further problems everyday.I know how it is when people from each part hate each other thanks to certain policies and fanatics!I saw hatred caused by mistakes of few and of superiors and not by the people themselves almost everyday but the people hate each other!I am NOT blaming ANY of you or the SOLDIERS that are fighting for the war!!
Its just that there is an aspect of war  you dont seem to get.Unneeded but unavoidable hatred is created with war.Its not a choice of the soldiers or you or me.There is NO justified war!
And usually "country and nationalism" are the best motivations to keep people fighting and believe for what they are fighting for without questioning the reason!
Stop using "being an American" as an excuse for God\'s sakes!The pride causes further problems, unneeded hatred and irrational judgement!I speak from experience!These are the best "Weapons" to keep people blindfolded!!
An example:My "enemy" is taught to be proud and hate me and my country for the sakes of being a Turkish.My side is being taught to be proud and hate the Turkish for the sakes of being a Greek-Cypriot!For years in Turkey Turkish history is viewed as a country that has being attacked for centuries by the barbarian and imperialistic Greek people and how proud they should be for being Turkish!The Greeks are being told that they have been attacked by the barbarian and imperialistic Turkish people.the real story is that both showed imperialistic tendancies against each other.But you cant see the true history and facts if you are too proud.For years many bigoted people for generations hate each other and want to kill each other because they are taught that they should kill for the proection and pride of their country while the real motivations were far different!
I ve learned to judge things as a human first as a Greek later
 
Where\'s your free will?Your judgement as a self-controlled existence when you just view things as a proud American and not as human???
Just as you are telling me I dont understand how it is to be an American, Greek-Cypriots are telling me the same thing about being Greek!The same thing the Turkish believe about their nation.And their regime is not even democratic.Army rules in Turkey.

Originally posted by PSX_J
Uni for PTB it\'s not about the politics anymore.  None of us have a clue what war is like but just from listening to a few veterans talk the politics doesnt matter much anymore.  It\'s the fact somebody is trying to kill you stemming up a great ammount of hatred.

Doesnt differ at all from what I said in a previous post.


I reacted to some posts since you dont know what or how war is certain comments shouldnt have been said.Proud to be has every reason to express them.You dont.He is there becuase he was sent to.He must survive.He is being shot at because he was sent there.His comrades, his friends die, he must kill to save them.He sees death.You dont.
He is full with hatred and worry and this feelings are unavoidable for means of survival.Sometimes irrational thinking may occur.He is justified for thinking even like that.You are not.For him politics mean nothing and its common sense.Bu you view a war from a distance and you have a clear mind.
Expressing brutal comments of killing that lead to opinions of hatred towards other people while you view things from a distance has no excuse.Especially in a war like this.

Dude, chill.  I am in no way thinking like PTB...it just seems to me that you dont understand why he hates the Iraqis.  Im trying to help justify the way he talks..ofcourse I dont know what war is like "yet" and Im not trying to express how I feel about it.  I was trying to explain to you that his reasons for hating the Iraqis are understandable.  He\'s defending our freedom everyday putting his life in harms way as lunatics try to take it, that\'s bound to change your way of thinking.  I didnt think you understood that, but quit trying to make it sound like Im giving you a first person perspective of war...Im not and I cant....and if Im lucky I\'ll never have to.

[clips]

Originally posted by Unicron!
I reacted to some posts since you dont know what or how war is certain comments shouldnt have been said.Proud to be has every reason to express them.You dont.He is there becuase he was sent to.He must survive.He is being shot at because he was sent there.His comrades, his friends die, he must kill to save them.He sees death.You dont.
He is full with hatred and worry and this feelings are unavoidable for means of survival.Sometimes irrational thinking may occur.He is justified for thinking even like that.You are not.For him politics mean nothing and its common sense.Bu you view a war from a distance and you have a clear mind.
Expressing brutal comments of killing that lead to opinions of hatred towards other people while you view things from a distance has no excuse.Especially in a war like this.

very well said uni..why don\'t you post over in current events? we need more like you over there...oh and space out those paragraphs..

Some Marines were killed yesterday in Western Iraq - I know the base where PTB is posting from - its on the Syrian border.  Let\'s hope he is safe.

I hope some of you realize if he is actually posted in that area - it is one of the most dangerous areas of that country.

Again as I said before... YOU HAVE NO CONECEPT OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AMERICAN..... why do I hate Iraqs because they are trying to kill AMERICANS and what kind of Americans the kind like Proud To Be that are they because he loves America and is there doing a job. What kind of Job the kind that makes something better than they had and the kind that are helping them be better than they were.. I have never been in War I was lucky that way but It doesnt mean I dont have a right to have an opionon of something so uni blow it out your ass...

When is cyprus next???

Originally posted by PSX_J
Dude, chill.  I am in no way thinking like PTB...it just seems to me that you dont understand why he hates the Iraqis.  Im trying to help justify the way he talks..ofcourse I dont know what war is like "yet" and Im not trying to express how I feel about it.  I was trying to explain to you that his reasons for hating the Iraqis are understandable.  He\'s defending our freedom everyday putting his life in harms way as lunatics try to take it, that\'s bound to change your way of thinking.  I didnt think you understood that, but quit trying to make it sound like Im giving you a first person perspective of war...Im not and I cant....and if Im lucky I\'ll never have to.

If you check my posts I never criticized Proud to Be\'s way of thinking.I too said his feelings are justified.Its other people\'s reactions I didnt like.Sorry for sounding offensive towards you.Its that some people think I am anti-American.

Originally posted by Cyrus
Again as I said before... YOU HAVE NO CONECEPT OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AMERICAN..... why do I hate Iraqs because they are trying to kill AMERICANS and what kind of Americans the kind like Proud To Be that are they because he loves America and is there doing a job. What kind of Job the kind that makes something better than they had and the kind that are helping them be better than they were.. I have never been in War I was lucky that way but It doesnt mean I dont have a right to have an opionon of something so uni blow it out your ass...

When is cyprus next???

You know whats funny?The American soldiers are placed on an Iraqi territory.And you expect from others to understand how it is like to be an American while you dont understand how its is like to be a proud Iraqi.You dont understand that a proud American doesnt differ from a proud Greek, or a proud Iraqi or a proud Russian etc.Americans arent the only proud people.They all feel the same shit.Its the pride and this feel of nationalism that its killing each other.
You can have whatever opinion you like.Even on things you never experienced.Everyone can.Having a valid one is another matter.
And if indeed you put some effort to read my post you would have understood thats its this pride that gets people to hate and kill each other.I live the consequences of such pride.I have relatives that suffered even the consequences of a coup becuase of that pride.This pride might even lead to compatriots killing compatriots.People lost families,women, children, brothers friends, relatives, all unarmed because of the pride which causes even more hatred after the deaths.
The thing is about your country is that only the soldiers face this consequences while the American citizens fortunately view it from a safe position.It doesnt matter if you are proud or not  in a country that doesnt have direct contact with the hatred a another country expresses towards you.
Instead of seeing my posts as anti-american criticism(becuase thats not what I am trying to do but you think it is) you should start viewing it as an effort to inform you and help you understand things you cant understand by yourself.

I agree with Uni.

Although, as a soldier it is almost required that you have "hate" for certain people.

You cannot kill on the battlefield if you have not decided that they deserve to die.

[clips]

i undrstand what you\'re sayin\' uni..and to a degree i see your point..every country has that pride ?& the u.s. in general has to be careful in labeling countries they call enemies...for the most part i feel it is a bad country when we do go war...

but at the same time i feel that those countries that we are fightin\',..their commanders & people in their country are tellin them we are the enemy and to stand up against us..(the enemy)..so there\'s that pride thing there...both sides feel they are fighting for the greater good..maybe i\'m not makin\' myself clear,..but hopefully you get the point...

concerning this war (iraq) i hope proud to be & the rest of the soldiers come home safe,..i just feel that they shouldn\'t be there in the first place...

Everyone, my name is Josh.

GigaShadow, how do you know of the info you have?

Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
I agree with Uni.

Although, as a soldier it is almost required that you have "hate" for certain people.

You cannot kill on the battlefield if you have not decided that they deserve to die.

Not just required.Its unavodable too.Your friends die and the enemy is threatening your life too.Enough reason to dislike and hate.
Also the need of survival is enough to make someone decide to kill.Ofcourse seeing your comrades die is also enough to decide Iraqis desreve to die too.And its not strange.

Originally posted by clips
i undrstand what you\'re sayin\' uni..and to a degree i see your point..every country has that pride ?& the u.s. in general has to be careful in labeling countries they call enemies...for the most part i feel it is a bad country when we do go war...

but at the same time i feel that those countries that we are fightin\',..their commanders & people in their country are tellin them we are the enemy and to stand up against us..(the enemy)..so there\'s that pride thing there...both sides feel they are fighting for the greater good..maybe i\'m not makin\' myself clear,..but hopefully you get the point...

concerning this war (iraq) i hope proud to be & the rest of the soldiers come home safe,..i just feel that they shouldn\'t be there in the first place...

Yes you seem to get my point at some extent.Both sites fight for what they believe in.Even if they have different ideas of whats wrong or right.
And I hope they come back safe as well



btw something else to inform you generally on  every war.Usually the ones that are being attacked have  stronger motives to fight than the ones that attack.
for example lets see a few reasons why the American soldiers are sent there:
1)free another country from a dictator=Not a strong motive for an American to fight for since its basically sending him to die fighting for the sakes of a country he doesnt belong to
2)Find weapons of mass destruction=Not a sure thing if they exist and not necessarilly a sure thread to his country
3)Fight to weaken future terrorist attacks againts his country.Also not a sure thing.Al Quida is from islam fanatics.Iraq was a political regime and had disputes with religiously bigoted Islamic countries.
4)The best motive is survival and save their comrades.

The answer we get from soldiers is usually "I am just doing my duty"


The iraqis that fight on the other hand have other beliefs
1)USA threatens the autonomy of their country
2)They are too proud to let outsiders enter their country
3)They fight for their leader
4)They fight for revenge after losing relatives thanks to the bombing attacks
5)They dont want to let the USA exploit their energy resources which is basically not letting the USA exploit the Iraqi people
6)They are too proud to let others decide whats good for their country or not
7)The need for survival and save their compatriots
8)they are being attacked.They must defend
Who knows also what they are being told againts the USA

Originally posted by Unicron!
8)they are being attacked.They must defend

I dont know where they are being attacked by us, and where they are I gaurantee its for a good cause, but where I\'m from here in Al Qa\'im the only attacks made are against us. They use IED\'s(Improvised Explosive Devices) made out of anything they can get their dirty hands on, put them beside the road and wait for us to come by and wack us. Also, Mines come into play, double stacked anti-tank mines for that matter. You know what kind of damage that shit does to our humvees? survival rate is almost zero. They dont know what the f*ck is gonna run that shit over, most likely is on the routes that we cover daily, but they dont care about killing each other either.  So be it, as long as there is a chance of us hitting it.
We get hit almost daily, due to their f*cking retarded antics, hiding like bitchs setting off bombs and running.

I hope you enjoy those pics BTW. The two in the green feild were after an RPG and small arms attack, supplied by the iraqi police in the surrounding area.