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« Reply #90 on: August 15, 2004, 09:03:05 PM »
"Game over man, ****in\' game over.."

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« Reply #91 on: August 15, 2004, 10:01:02 PM »
God i love that movie.

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« Reply #92 on: August 16, 2004, 01:41:33 AM »
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Sonar? I dunno. So both Alien and Predator is decided have the same playing field as eachother. They both see normally. I\'m still not so sure about the face huggers though. They aren\'t that smart to remove the mask, then get Predator. If it came near him, he\'d use his metal claws in his arm to stab it (which would probably melt his claw though), or use his laser. As for the acid spilling anywhere, if he fires at a safe distance, I\'m sure he wouldn\'t care where the acid goes.


That would melt the mask and his face

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« Reply #93 on: August 16, 2004, 05:13:28 AM »
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It bites worse than Alien: Ressurection - and that is damn hard to do.


I thought Resurrection was pretty cool with Alien 3 being the dud in the series.

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« Reply #94 on: August 16, 2004, 07:30:04 AM »
You only have to consider one factor to realize how much better Alien 3 was.  Which film was scarier?  Alien: Resurrection or Alien 3?  Clearly Alien 3 was scarier because it was an attempt by David Fincher to take the series back to it\'s horror roots and make it more like the first film.  There was ONE alien in Alien 3, not swarms of them like in Aliens and Resurrection.  It\'s better that way.
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« Reply #95 on: August 16, 2004, 07:47:23 AM »
AvP rocked. I rikey very much.
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« Reply #96 on: August 16, 2004, 09:11:21 AM »
I like the swarms of aliens. Not that 3 and 1 were bad, i just happen to like 2 and reserrection (aliens being my favorite, of course).
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« Reply #97 on: August 16, 2004, 04:06:40 PM »
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Which film was scarier? Alien: Resurrection or Alien 3? Clearly Alien 3 was scarier because it was an attempt by David Fincher to take the series back to it\'s horror roots and make it more like the first film. There was ONE alien in Alien 3, not swarms of them like in Aliens and Resurrection. It\'s better that way.


He did attempt to make it scary, a shame he couldn\'t.  I was bored and the cg was down right laughable.  Sorry, I couldn\'t get in to it.

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« Reply #98 on: August 16, 2004, 05:05:29 PM »
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You only have to consider one factor to realize how much better Alien 3 was.  Which film was scarier?  Alien: Resurrection or Alien 3?  Clearly Alien 3 was scarier because it was an attempt by David Fincher to take the series back to it\'s horror roots and make it more like the first film.  There was ONE alien in Alien 3, not swarms of them like in Aliens and Resurrection.  It\'s better that way.


I don\'t really see how it\'s better that way. Just different. I really don\'t think there are many people that would say 1 was clearly a better movie than 2 (and vise versa). Having said that, I think the second movie did encompass everything that made the original great, just to a lesser extent and put more emphasis on the suspensful and almost confusing action sequences. The characters were also much more enjoyable, and draws the audience closer into the film (and then alienates them when the characters die). The second movie also had a richer story, IMO (the relationship between Ripley and her daughter/newt - continuing the companies greed and utter disregard for human life, the characters\' confusion, helplessness and reactions to eachother and those in authority, etc.).

The first film was definately more of a classic horror film, in that it was all about battling the unknown. The crew had no idea what the face-hugger had done to Kane, nor what was happening to him at the table. Their utter bemusement at the creature that popped out of his chest, then discovering more and more about the alien as it developed. What I loved most was never actually seeing the alien clearly (except, IIRC, one shot when they\'re in the ducts, but that was still only the face/arms). It was suspense at it\'s finest. My point starts here, btw: The third film really did not capture this at all. The audience was all fully familiar with the aliens by this stage and any attempts to bring it back to it\'s roots would fail miserably. The alien had almost too much personality and the whole film became almost standard.

What I did really enjoy was the final attempt to lure the alien into the smelting room (or whatever it was). I thought the tunnel chase scene was very enjoyable, and highly original. What made the second so much better than the third was that it didn\'t try and emulate the original, it just evolved in a very natural and appropriate way. How can one alien going on a killing spree again (although, in 3 it was mjuch bigger I think..) be consindered better than Cameron showing how truely powerful the race actually is? By having the completely overwhelm and dissect a group of "very tough hombres" who could handle anything? Also, as I touched on earlier, there were throw-backs to the original film in the second. The scene where Ripley and Newt were attacked by the face-huggers, also as the marines entered the complex, before there were any aliens shown. As the marines were first attacked - the aliens fitting in perfectly with the environment and never getting a clear view. Just because it was on a larger scale does not necessarilly remove the horror element from it.

Dammit, I could go on forever. :p

IMO, btw. :)

Oh, and 4 was just crap. Ripped off the 3 previous films horrably, and tried to get too clever and it all just imploded on itself in a great big baconfuck.

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« Reply #99 on: August 16, 2004, 05:20:13 PM »
I liked the move a lot (AvP), personally. It could have been a LOT better. But I think a movie like this was probably very hard to direct.




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« Reply #100 on: August 17, 2004, 08:36:57 PM »
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I thought Resurrection was pretty cool with Alien 3 being the dud in the series.


I liked Alien Resurrection but I thought they did things in the movie that just didn\'t fit in. I\'m still trying to figure out cloning Ripley and her remembering stuff from her past life. I don\'t even see why they cloned her or how. Maybe they should have just left her out of it. It was a weak movie but I did like it. Alien 3 I thought was pretty good. I liked the alternative script though that had Hicks in it too and he turns out to be a big hero. But Alien 3 was a good ending to the original trilogy. What would have happened if Ripley survived? Another sequel with the same type of story line. Resurrection I thought was a good movie and attempt but they did change things too much. It was my least favorite out of the Alien movies. Aliens is still the best and they should have kept Hudson :)
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« Reply #101 on: August 18, 2004, 06:23:38 PM »
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I liked Alien Resurrection but I thought they did things in the movie that just didn\'t fit in. I\'m still trying to figure out cloning Ripley and her remembering stuff from her past life. I don\'t even see why they cloned her or how. Maybe they should have just left her out of it.


OMG man, WHY they cloned her? Because... wait for it... she had an ALIEN inside of her! A queen one at that. In those hundreds of years they\'ve obviously advanced the idea of cloning far enough so as to replicate the state that the human (or whatever they are cloning) perfectly. Well, theorhetically perfectly. Though that idea is TOTALLY flawed, I guess when they recovered part of Ripley her remains were mixed in with the aliens remains, in which case it probably would have been far more cost effective to try and differentiate and separate the alien DNA from the Human DNA. In the movie they showed you all the clones that had crossed genes with the alien that was inside of her. Now, I\'m not sure if this was intentional or not as the final Ripley clone had crossed genes with the Xenomorph (which is HOW she remembers, the Xenomorph have genetic memories, memories passed down via ones genes..). Thus, with the xenomorphs traits, Ripley could remember some things. Though this is obviously flawed, but whatever. Now, onto why they didn\'t just clone the alien, perhaps either the scriptwriters didn\'t think of it, or they did and chose to go with deliberately trying to cross the twos genes. After all, in all these centuries, they should be pretty good at cloning by now. Why would they want to cross the two over intentionally? Well.. did you see at the end, how impressed the scientist was when the Xenomorph was given the \'benefit\' (although I would argue it\'s a complete and utter hindrance) or the human reproductive system? Perhaps that is what he was trying to do. Though they never explained it as deliberate, and thus it was accidental, and thus the movie is shit because the script was stupid whilst trying to be too smart.

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It was a weak movie but I did like it. Alien 3 I thought was pretty good. I liked the alternative script though that had Hicks in it too and he turns out to be a big hero. But Alien 3 was a good ending to the original trilogy. What would have happened if Ripley survived? Another sequel with the same type of story line. Resurrection I thought was a good movie and attempt but they did change things too much. It was my least favorite out of the Alien movies. Aliens is still the best and they should have kept Hudson :) [/B]


I always dreamed of Alien 3 with Hicks in it. AND Hudson..*swoon again..

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« Reply #102 on: August 18, 2004, 06:45:47 PM »
They should have cloned Hudson in Resurrection instead. Yeah, it wouldn\'t have made sense, but dammit, its Hudson :D
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« Reply #103 on: August 18, 2004, 06:47:10 PM »
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They should have cloned Hudson in Resurrection instead. Yeah, it wouldn\'t have made sense, but dammit, its Hudson :D


Haha. That\'s funny.

They could simply remove Alien from the title, and just call it "Resurrection". And have him sit around a camp fire with some boy scouts for a few hours telling ghost stories with extreme profanity.

Yah, much better movie.

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« Reply #104 on: August 18, 2004, 06:50:58 PM »
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Haha. That\'s funny.

They could simply remove Alien from the title, and just call it "Resurrection". And have him sit around a camp fire with some boy scouts for a few hours telling ghost stories with extreme profanity.

Yah, much better movie.


Seriously. Hudson made Aliens great. Would have most likely not rocked as much if they didn\'t have him in it. Its a shame he died. I was very disappointed in that.
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