Deported

Originally posted by videoholic
Yeah, right....

Happens all the time. I know a million of hispanics that dont speak spanish or speak it well. Its usually puerto rican children that have the worst spanish. I dont know exactly why. A PR friend of mine was explaining this one day but that was a long time ago.

Anyway

I got into a fight with one of my ex GF\'s over this thing that was passed during the beginning of the war where illegals could fight in the war and then be given citizenship when they return. I thought it was a good deal. If you want to be a citizen then fight for the country and youve earned it. She got pissed at me and said it was unfair and it was exploitation. I said its just because shes hispanic and she had illegal family.

I mean the US doesnt have to care what poor conditions they came from in mexico or w/e so deportation is sensible. Of course i kinda feel their pain but I thought it was an ok deal.

http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/fugitives.htm

Throwing gas on the fire 4/10 of the FBI\'s most wanted are Mexi\'s.  If you live in TX be sure to keep your garage closed, unless you want to lose your power equipment to a bean eater riding a bike.

Dithcuth :ghey:

[Titan]

I don\'t see why immigrants don\'t just go and get their citizenships.

Ok, I encounter this all the time where I work, someone comes in and cannot speak English, this is very frustrating, and on my part I don\'t feel I can help the customer, and in all reallity its not my fault, so I don\'t feel bad. If you want to live here please learn English, it is best for everyone and yourself.

[Titan]

Originally posted by mjps21983
Ok, I encounter this all the time where I work, someone comes in and cannot speak English, this is very frustrating, and on my part I don\'t feel I can help the customer, and in all reallity its not my fault, so I don\'t feel bad. If you want to live here please learn English, it is best for everyone and yourself.

Heh, something like that happened at the store I worked at tonight. This group of spanish speaking people came in. They didn\'t speak a lick of english. Someone was on my register because I got preoccupied. He rang them up and came to Lamisil I think it was or Neosporin. There were two types. He asked the guy if he wanted both and he said "Si, si". He rang him up and when he printed out the recipt and credit card thing to sign came out, the semi-english speaking woman yelled at him for putting it on twice. We had to do this whole process. She then came back like 10 minutes later when I was on and started yelling at me for putting on 5 dollars that was added (coupons add on when they are expired) and we had to go through AGAIN the whole refund process.

They racial profile because the hispanics have a greater chance of being illegal.  How many times do you see a white person getting busted for being an illegal immigrant?  For example, 60 mexicans were just busted recently for being illegal.

Today they found a whole semi carrying 40  I think..

[SirMystiq]

I don\'t think they should be working illegaly. But I also don\'t think people should bitch about it before they know why they had to go to that extent just to WORK IN AMERICA. I would think that real proud American\'s would notice that people die and risk their lives every day just for the American dream. That some people that live here legally have lost hope for it but down south people still believe in the American dream and their not even "American"!

I think it\'s sad when people complain about illegal immigrants and treat them like crooked criminals. I don\'t think that a dad that paid some guy 3,000 dollars to ride in the back of a semi to get to this country to work for his family is a criminal.

And I don\'t know if you know this but both of my parents are illegal. We have a house 4 automobile\'s and a freaking dog. It took 13 years for my parents to get all of this things, AND THEY PAY TAXES(I believe that is what it says on their check), but we DON\'T GET THE REFUND. So you can honestly die if you think that my parents should get deported because they have worked here illegaly. But I guess I don\'t see how bad they screw legal residents over.

As for people learning English. Hey I agree with that but I\'m also realistic. The fact is that in this country, there is almost NO reason to learn English. Except to talk to people that speak only English. Everywhere you go you can find Spanish translators, menus, workers, bank people, doctors, lawyers and the list goes on. And it\'s known that learning another language (specially Spanish) can improve your working potential and your chances to get a better job.

And I\'m happy that white and black people, in fact all kinds of non-spanish people, are taking their time to learn Spanish. I get so many white people come to the store I help them out and then they start talking in Spanish to me, they seem very proud of it.

only reason we learn spanish is because we have to in high school, and its the easiest of the group. And if your parents are illegal then, I\'m going to piss you off, they shouldn\'t be here, they didn\'t go through the process of getting there citizenship legally like so many others, so yes, they don\'t deserve to live here.

[SirMystiq]

Originally posted by mjps21983
only reason we learn spanish is because we have to in high school, and its the easiest of the group. And if your parents are illegal then, I\'m going to piss you off, they shouldn\'t be here, they didn\'t go through the process of getting there citizenship legally like so many others, so yes, they don\'t deserve to live here.

It\'s not that easy. My parents would have to give up EVERYTHING they worked for to become legal. EVERYTHING. And I don\'t see how giving up everything would help once you become legal.

They don\'t deserve to live here?
They paid taxes, invested money, bought a car, got in debt with credit cards, donated to those highway patrol people, they at least speak some English, they have worked all their lives and have never once screwed this country over, they appreciate this country for what it has given them and so on.

Tell me what does it take to "deserve to live here"?



There are 35 year old men talking to me in Spanish.

Originally posted by SirMystiq
It\'s not that easy. My parents would have to give up EVERYTHING they worked for to become legal. EVERYTHING. And I don\'t see how giving up everything would help once you become legal.

They don\'t deserve to live here?
They paid taxes, invested money, bought a car, got in debt with credit cards, donated to those highway patrol people, they at least speak some English, they have worked all their lives and have never once screwed this country over, they appreciate this country for what it has given them and so on.

Tell me what does it take to "deserve to live here"?



There are 35 year old men talking to me in Spanish.

Immigration reform is a hot topic.  Some, like you want open borders, but most want closed borders to stop the influx of what they see as a further burden on American society.

Most immigrants from early in the 20th learned the language - they had to in order to find work.  The ones that come here now don\'t, which ends up costing us tax payers more money to make everything bilingual.  Most of those who come from Mexico have no money or skills as well and if given citizenship would get even more assitance from the government.  Our government needs to take a stand and make English our national language.  I personally don\'t want my son to learn Spanish - I would rather him learn German which is part of his heritage, but they don\'t even teach that in our schools anymore due to the influx of hispanics who refuse to learn English in our society.  

What I don\'t like is the fact they leave their country to come here for $$$ and they send most of that $$$ back to Mexico.  For the most part they are paid under the table so they don\'t pay taxes and SS AND they are entitled to health care should they get hurt.  Who pays for this?  The tax paying citizens of the US!  

Now there is a group that wants to let illegal aliens vote!!!! WTF!  It is getting to a point where being an illegal alien will have more benefits than being a citizen.  The problem with the US is that we give everything away.

Originally posted by SirMystiq


Tell me what does it take to "deserve to live here"?

Legal citizenship.


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For my academic honors diploma I have to take ATLEAST three years of a foreign language.  Latin blows, french is hard, and Spanish is the easiest.

Why would people complain about having to learn a different language?

Personally, I wish that kids in America learned multiple languages at younger ages. There really is no downside to being multilingual.

I don\'t have a problem with learning other languages - there should be a choice though.  They are teaching Spanish to kindergartners here.  I don\'t see them teaching German, French or whatever...  only Spanish.  

The other problem is kids can\'t even speak their native tongue - English - properly.  Now they are making Spanish almost a mandatory 2nd language?

[Titan]

I have nothing wrong with them living in America. I have a problem with illegal ones costing tax payers money the way Giga said. I have no problem with immigrants bringing their culture and language into this country, after all, that\'s what our culture is based on; kind of a fuse of cultures throughout the years. What I have a problem with is they come here, don\'t get citizenships and don\'t learn the language. English is the main language. They should atleast learn to speak it. Its a latin based language, just like spanish. I\'m sure it could be picked up with a bit of time. What I don\'t understand is why illegal immigrants just don\'t file for citizenship when they get here.